| Benjamin Wynn | Hi, everybody, my name's Benjamin Wynn. I'm one half of the Track Team, and we do music and sound for Avatar. The other half is Jeremy Zuckerman. |
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| Dee Bradley Baker | And this is Dee Baker. I do the sounds of Momo, [Makes a Momo sound.] and uh, Appa, [Makes an Appa sound.] and all the creatures, uh, that populate the magnificent world of Avatar, and we're gonna talk about this show together. |
| Ben | Yes, we... |
| Dee | [Interjects.] It's the first time we've spoken together, so it's gonna be really... |
| Ben | [Interjects.] It's gonna be fun. |
| Dee | ... cutting edge and interesting. |
| Ben | So, my particular duties on the show are sound design. Um, Jeremy does music, so that's pretty much what I'm gonna be talking about. |
| Dee | And, so you do this after everything is already visually rendered, and they send it to you, and you... |
| Ben | [Interjects.] Right, they give me all the animation when it's completely done, and then we just add all the sound and the music. |
| Dee | A-and, uh, do you also do the music, too? Or is it-or is the music given to you separately? |
| Ben | Uh, simultaneously, we do the music, so... |
| Dee | [Interjects.] Oh. |
| Ben | ... one of us is working on music, one of us is working on sound. |
| Dee | Oh, so-so there's-there's a couple of you? |
| Ben | Two of us. |
| Dee | Oh. |
| Ben | Jeremy could not make it. |
| Dee | Okay. |
| Ben | So, I am-I'm voicing his opinions. |
| Dee | Okay, alright, okay. And, um, uh, as far as what I do in the show, uh, n-normally, uh, I'm given the show with no sound effects and no music, and I get to watch through it and see what Momo and Appa and any of the other creatures might be doing, and I just kinda come up with my ideas and, uh, then come into the booth and um, see what happens. |
| Ben | That's right, so you-you do your stuff before there's any animation. Is that correct? |
| Dee | No, no, it-mine's all done after the animation, in this-in this show. |
| Ben | Oh, okay. |
| Dee | This, uh, almost always, is-is almost always done afterwards... |
| Ben | [In the background.] So, there's your-right there... |
| Dee | ... which is unusual, which is unusual. |
| Ben | [Refers to the sound Momo makes as he picks up the coin that fell out of the storyteller's hat.] So, give me your inspiration for Momo, right there. |
| Dee | Uh, [Makes a squeaking sound.] well, uh, there's-there's-there's sort of an ape-like look to the little fella, and so, which is a, [Makes an ape sound.] but-but like everything in this show, he's kind of a combination of things, so there's gotta be something weird to him, [Ben gives an affirming murmur.] um, and he's kind of a s... |
| Ben | [Interjects.] He's not just a lemur. |
| Dee | No, he's not, he-he's k-and there's kind of a contemplative softness to him, and, uh, [Makes a squeaking sound.] and so I kind of added a purring, uh, [Purrs; Ben gives an affirming murmur.] to him [Ben chuckles.] also. [Makes a Momo sound.] |
| Ben | So, do-do you give him thoughts, or do you just kinda go for... |
| Dee | [Brief pause.] Um... |
| Ben | [Interjects.] Are-are you a method actor, I guess I'm, uh... |
| Dee | [Interjects; laughs.] Uh, I don't know, I-I-I think, uh, ultimately, the-the show is specific enough, and one-one of the great things about is it's-is everything about it's very specific, and-and [Ben affirmingly murmurs intermittently.] there's a real depth to it, even if it's a-a co-a comedic thing or a light moment, and, um, and so any sound I make, I'm trying to-the-I'm trying to say something with that, I guess. |
| Ben | [Gives an affirming murmur.] Yeah, um, you know, I-I've known Bryan for a while, and-Bryan and Mike, and when they were originally talking about this show, it turns out the sound design is very realistic. It's not, you know, it's not like you hear that magic sound, and then just magic stuff happens. It's supposed to be very realistic, very detailed. So, I, you know, which is pretty tough, it's pre-I think it's harder sometimes, making something sound realistic than it is making it, um, sound magical, you know. [Dee gives an affirming murmur; refers to the sounds of rushing air as Aang and Teo fly on their gliders.] Like all these glider wind sounds are s-yeah. You know, it-it-it's interesting, like, sound design, in lots of respects, it's... it's successful if people don't really notice it. |
| Dee | [Gives an affirming murmur; brief pause.] Yeah, I'm happiest, too, if, uh, if nobody thinks, "oh, what's-it sounds like there's some guy doing an animal sound," [Ben gives an affirming murmur.] if they just think of the animal making that sound. |
| Ben | [Gives an affirming murmur.] It's such a huge help for the show. It's amazing. |
| Dee | I hope so. |
| Ben | [Referring to Aang as he tries to outperform Teo in gliding, running along the vertical wall on one of the Northern Air Temple's structures.] Here's Aang, feeling a little-little competitive. |
| Dee | I don't know how they do this, but part of what, to me, what makes Aang so appealing is he has these superpowers, and yet he's a very vulnerable, kind of a sweet vulnerable kid, and you're always kind of on his side, because there's a vulnerability to his superpowers. |
| Ben | [Gives an affirming murmur; brief pause.] Again, with this show, everything is just supposed, you know, it's just as intense as possible, as, like, hyper-real as possible. Which is-makes a pretty fun sound design, actually. |
| Dee | [Refers to Aang sourly complimenting the face, its annoyed expression resembling his own, that Teo drew in the sky with a smoke canister attached to his glider; laughs.] I love the humor in this show. I just love it. I think it's a really funny show. |
| Ben | [Laughs; referring to some settlers removing the gliding components on Teo's wheelchair, revealing that he is paraplegic.] Aha. |
| Dee | The reveal. [Ben gives an affirming murmur.] |
| No commentary for a short period of time until Aang awkwardly thanks Teo for complimenting him as the Avatar, eliciting a chuckle from Ben. | |
| Dee | [Imitating Teo being in awe of Aang.] "I just kicked your butt." |
| Ben | [Laughs; refers to the sound Teo's wheelchair makes as it moves along the stone floor of the temple.] I was quite worried about how to do that wheelchair, to be honest, and luckily, foley did a really good job. [Refers to the sound of steam being released, and other mechanical, industrial sounds from the machinery built in the temple.] This was kinda fun, this whole ambiance. This, like, um, kinda kooky noisemaker, inventor-guy ambiance, who kinda lives in [Dee gives an affirming murmur.] this-he invented this crazy world, so all these, like, pistons going off and, like, uh, industrial presses, and stuff. |
| Dee | [Gives an affirming murmur.] Yeah, you're right. It-it's so-it's something you never think about while watching it. |
| Ben | It's fun. |
| Dee | But it really does, uh, add the whole dimension to the world. |
| Ben | Actually, a lot of those sounds, like those motors, or these, some rea-my mom somehow started giving me all these, like, really silly little toys every Christmas. It turns out I use every single one in the show, so... |
| Dee | [Interjects.] Oh, neat. |
| Ben | ... so, I have these funny little red lips that make a sound, [Refers to the puffing sound that plays as an elevator is pulled up to another level in the room.] so that was the elevator right there. |
| Dee | [Laughs; imitating and referring to Aang's distress about the industrialization of the Northern Air Temple.] "And you made it into a theme park." |
| Ben | [Whispers, referring to the cloud of smoke emitted from the flying bison statue.] Scary. [Dee makes a raspy roar; continues in normal voice.] We always wanted to do a show 'pletely just with mouth noises. |
| Dee | Yeah. |
| Ben | I think that'd be awesome. |
| Dee | [Brief pause; imitating and referring to Teo as the mechanist destroys an Air Nomad statue with a wrecking ball.] "Aw, you ruined it. Aw, dad." |
| Ben | [Laughs.] There's the kooky, [Repeats the mechanist while snickering.] "the doodle." |
| Dee | [Refers to the mechanist's exclamation at seeing the group and Teo.] You know that a guy that says, "what the doodle," is probably not evil. [Ben chuckles.] He's-he's probably... |
| Ben | I really-I should start saying that. |
| Dee | He's probably just misguided. |
| Ben | [Imitating the mechanist's confused tone.] "What the doodle?" |
| Dee | I mean, he's made some bad choices, but he's not a bad guy. "What the doodle." |
| Ben | Right, totally. [Laughs.] He's got a good heart. |
| Another period of no commentary until the mechanist begins his story explaining why he and his people were living at and altering the air temple. | |
| Ben | You can feel the love for his k-for his son, you really can. |
| Dee | Yeah. |
| Ben | [Brief pause; refers to the mechanist explaining how he stumbled upon the abandoned temple after becoming a refugee.] I would stay there, too, if I stumbled across it, I think. |
| Dee | [Imitating and referring to when Aang airbent the mechanist's wrecking ball off the mountain.] "Sorry about destroying your wrecking ball and blowing a hole in the side of the sacred temple." |
| Ben chuckles as Katara uses Aang's robe to dry her eyes. | |
| Dee | [Referring to Katara and Sokka crying after hearing the mechanist's story.] Everyone's crying. [Pretends to cry.] |
| Ben | I'm getting so wrapped up, [Laughs.] I'm getting so wrapped up [Dee affirms.] in watching this, I'm kind of just paying attention. |
| Dee | The most boring DVD commentary ever. |
| Ben | [Laughs; refers to the explosive popping sound from the spark powder in the mechanist's candles.] This actually was a very hard sound design to do, believe it or not. I think we ended getting those, um, snaps. You know those little toy snaps, where you throw them down, and they kind of explode. |
| Dee | Uh-huh, yes. |
| Ben | That's what that is. |
| Dee laughs loudly at the mechanist as he takes off his wooden prosthetic fingers and throws them to Sokka. | |
| Ben | I guess if there's anything that we can-that we can give to-to anybody watching this is that if you're a kid and you're-and you're trying to figure out what you wanna do when you grow up, I think we're two good examples that you can pretty much do whatever you want when you grow up. You can... |
| Dee | [Interjects.] As long as you follow doing what you like. |
| Ben | You can make sounds with your mouth, or with your computer. |
| Dee makes several jittery, clacking animal sounds, imitating the hermit crab that scuttled along Katara's hand. | |
| Ben | [Chuckles.] What sound was that? |
| Dee | [Referring to the hermit crab.] What would that little-what would that-what sound would that make? |
| Ben | Oh man. |
| Dee | You know, that's all I do when I watch these. I just think, "what-what is that sound gonna be? What, uh, what might that be?" |
| Ben | How many takes does it take you to do these sounds? |
| Dee | Usually, they like my first idea. Maybe they modify it, or we end up modifying it a little bit, but-but [Ben gives an affirming murmur.] they-they-they usually like what I do when I bring it, yeah. |
| Ben | So, you're-you're something like a genius? |
| Dee | No. [Ben laughs.] No, no. [Ben and Dee laugh.] No-nothing like that. |
| Ben | Oh, sorry. |
| Dee | I just like creatures. I always liked watching monster movies when I was a little kid. |
| Ben | [Refers to the fireflies Sokka and the mechanist use to light their way down to the source of the gas leak.] Can-can you do bees, and-and insects, and flies, and stuff? |
| Dee | Like... |
| Ben | [Interjects.] Is it tough? |
| Dee | [Referring to the sound the hermit crabs make as Sokka and the mechanist walk past them.] Oh, that's me. |
| Ben | Nice. |
| Dee starts making insect and buzzing sounds, imitating the hermit crabs, changing to several flatulent sounds after the mechanist says "natural gas". | |
| Ben | [Laughs at Dee's many noises.] Kids, once again, you can do anything when you grow up. |
| Dee | [Imitating and referring to the mechanist saying that the empty room Sokka is looking into is filled with natural gas.] "It's filled to the brim with this plug device. We'll release it later." |
| Ben | Salami Studios, the mixing, uh, the place where it gets mixed. They do a real good job, too, the, you know, mixing reverb, and the sounds, and sort of placing stuff in the environments. It helps... |
| Dee | [Interjects.] Sometimes I do the ADR part over there. Usually, it's over here at Nickelodeon. |
| Ben | [Gives an affirming murmur; referring to the wind and papery flapping sounds that play as Katara readies to glide.] Here's another windy section. [Brief pause; refers to the music that plays as Aang describes the internal quality Katara needs to fly is spirit.] I love this music. [Brief pause; refers to Katara jumping off the edge with her glider, her screams changing to laughter as she soars through the air.] So epic. |
| Dee | Yeah, it really is. I mean, it's just got a beautiful, epic sense of spirit, [Ben gives an affirming murmur.] and it's also got the comedy right. It's got the sweetness right. It's got all these different elements that just beautifully... |
| Ben | [Brief pause.] Yeah, and it's got you. |
| Dee | [Makes Momo sounds.] It's so easy to let these images just, uh, [Ben gives an affirming murmur.] suggest a-a sound to me. |
| Ben | Yeah, same with me. I mean, you know, we do s-we do spotting suggestions each-be-before each episode, and, you know, we sit down and watch the whole thing and go over notes, and they, Bryan and Mike, tell us what they-what they're thinking for each scene, but honestly, um, the images are so descriptive that, [Dee affirms.] that I can get almost all the information from the images. |
| Dee | The relationships are also so clear, and the plight of-of whatever people is also so clear that you-I'm sure that, uh, suggests the tone that you want very well. |
| Ben | [Gives an affirming murmur; refers to Sokka reacting with disgust as he smells the mechanist's week-old egg dish.] I love Sokka. I think he's hysterical. |
| Dee | Oh, he's gotten really funny. |
| Ben | Oh, he's so funny. |
| Dee | He's really kinda changed from [Ben affirms.] sort of mister complainer to, uh... |
| Ben | [Interjects; referring to the sounds of Aang's airbending blowing through the curled tubes that open the temple's sanctuary door.] The-these sounds are kind of fun. We took a flute. |
| Dee | [Refers to the CG modeled sanctuary doors.] Ooh. Was that computer-is that-that looked like a computer animation, right there. |
| Ben | Yeah, I think, yeah, it was, I believe. |
| Dee | I'm commenting on things I don't know anything about now. [Ben chuckles.] And those things are many. |
| Ben | [Referring to Sokka and the mechanist finishing each other's sentences as they figure out how to use the smell of rotten eggs to find where the gas leaks are.] They're best friends. |
| Dee makes more funny flatulating sounds. | |
| Ben | [Laughs.] They need to do a Smell-O-Vision feature. [Dee makes more flatulating sounds; referring to bell ringing in the mechanist's workshop.] There's my bell. [Laughs.] |
| Dee | What-what, like the-your doorbell? |
| Ben | [Laughs.] It was chimes, yeah. |
| Dee | [Referring to Aang's shock upon finding the Fire Nation weapons in the Northern sanctuary.] Uh-uh-oh. |
| Ben | [Brief pause; refers to the faint sound of wind in the background.] Another-another little tidbit of sound people don't re-generally notice is that howling, ominous wind. [Dee gives an affirming murmur; refers to Teo learning that the mechanist has been making weapons and machinery for the Fire Nation.] What would you do if your dad-if he was making weapons for the Fire Lord? |
| Dee | I'd-I'd turn my wheelchair aside, if I found out. |
| Ben | [Laughs.] And shrug, with angst. [Referring to the sound of the mechanist's candle as it sparks.] Yet again, another s-hard sound to do, for some reason. Candles don't make a lot of recordable noise. |
| Dee | So, what do you do in your stunt? Your just kind of start kind of knocking things over and... [Ben gives a thoughtful murmur.] I don't know, where-where do you start looking? |
| Ben | [Jokingly.] I start blowing stuff up. Um, you know, you don't... |
| Dee | [Interjects.] Do you walk around the room and start flicking things and banging on things? Or... |
| Ben | [Interjects.] No, you have a general idea what type of category of sound, [Dee affirmingly murmurs intermittently.] so, you-you know, you just get a vocabulary of where to look for that category of sound. I'm sure it's much the same with you and your vocal cords, or whatever, but, y-you know, the sound kinda dictates where you're gonna look for it. [Refers to the sound of the Fire Nation army's bending during their assault on the temple.] A lot of these-a lot of the fire sounds are-are voice, actually. You might appreciate that. We recorded a lot of, like, vocal explosions, like... [Makes explosion sound.] |
| Dee | Oh, neat. Uh-huh. |
| Ben | And then just processed them. [Refers to when Aang bent a gust of air at War Minister Qin's face.] Even for-for Aang a lot, we just did, like, a wind kind of going... |
| Dee | [Interjects.] Wow. |
| Ben | [Makes a blowing wind sound.] And then, um, you know, we'd take them and process 'em and use 'em. |
| Dee | Neat. |
| Ben | A lot-a lot of the sounds, al-almost all of the firebending sounds are... |
| Dee | [Interjects.] Neat. |
| Ben | ... from our voice. [Dee gives an affirming murmur.] It's really amazing the, um, range of sounds that the voice can produce, reproduce. |
| Dee | It's insane the stuff you can do with your voice. I-I-I work on trying to come up with stuff everyday, and I just-it's just the freakish stuff that the voice was never designed to do, it's just-it's pretty amazing. |
| Ben | [Gives an affirming murmur.] And so expressive. |
| Dee | I'll probably-I'll probably asphyxiate someday, [Ben chuckles.] just making some stupid sound. |
| Ben | Another-another way we'll use our voices, um, if, say, you have a fire sound, and it's, like, a raging forest fire, and you want it to follow the-the animation, because animation's, like, very dynamic. So, you can take, like, a microphone, have the sound playing, and then follow the envelope of your voice and apply it over to the sound. So, you just kind of go, [Simulates fire by making repetitive blowing sounds.] if that's the action. [Dee gives an affirming murmur.] And then-and then the fire will do that. It will follow the envelope of your voice. |
| Dee | Wow. |
| Ben | And then do that. |
| Dee | Huh. [Responding to the mechanist's comment about never underestimating the power of stink.] Oh no, I've got two pugs. [Ben chuckles.] I know that all too well. |
| Ben | And-and a baby, don't you? |
| Dee | Yeah. |
| Ben | [Refers to the temple's denizens being alerted to the approaching Fire Nation forces.] Oh, here-here we start the incredibly long, epic battle. |
| Dee makes Appa and Momo sounds while Ben is speaking. | |
| Ben | [Referring to Dee's sounds.] And the Appa burp. [Refers to Aang, Katara, Teo, and several other defenders sortieing on gliders toward the invading force.] This scene was quite, uh, intense, sound design-wise and-and music-wise. [Refers to the settlers cheering on the flyers as they take off.] We had to make that crowd sound huge; they gave us, like, [Dee affirms; laughs.] the sound of three people. |
| Dee | [Referring to the music that plays as Fire Nation soldiers advance up the mountain.] I love the uh, syncopation there. [Ben gives an affirming murmur; counting out the beats to the music.] One-two, one-two-three. One-two-three, one-two, one-two-three, dun, dun. |
| Ben | [Refers to when the Fire Nation's tundra tanks launch grappling hooks that latching onto the edge of the cliff, allowing them to scale the vertical mountainside.] Now, these-these hu-crazy, huge tanks are coming, those... |
| Dee | [Interjects.] Yes, I just now remembered them actually, yeah. |
| Ben | Yeah, with these crazy grappling hooks. |
| Dee | [Refers to the tanks being CG models.] They're digital, aren't they? As I remember, they're-they're, like... |
| Ben | [Interjects.] I don't think so. |
| Dee | Really? |
| Ben | [Refers to the explosion sounds when the temple's denizens threw slime and fire bombs at the Fire Nation soldiers.] These sounds were intense. |
| Dee | [Referring to one of the Fire Nation soldiers telling his comrades to blow the out gliding defenders of the sky.] Oh, that was me. |
| Ben | Oh, you did the... |
| Dee | [Interjects; in the character's voice.] "Take 'em out of the sky, now!" |
| Ben | Lots of explosions. [Refers to Aang causing a small avalanche by moving across a snow mountain ledge above a line of Fire Nation soldiers with his air scooter.] Avalanche. |
| Dee | I really respect this show doesn't have all these little cutesy phrases, you know, like... |
| Ben | [In the background.] Right. |
| Dee | ... when you're dumping snow on people you don't say, [Ben laughs.] like, you know, "hope you like your snow-cones cold," or something like that, you know, it's just, they-they-they commit to the-to the-the universe that it comes from. |
| Ben | [Refers to the sound of the tundra tanks' grappling hooks as they launch out from beneath the clouds below Appa.] There are those grappling hooks, I like that sound. [Dee affirmingly murmurs intermittently.] Another trick is, like, when you have one sound and you need to make it lots of sounds, it's-it's pretty-it's pretty tough. [Laughs.] But you can actually, I mean, we've built these kinda things where you can repeat it, like, with all these random variables, like pitch and amplitude and... |
| Dee | [Interjects.] Huh. |
| Ben | ... and panning, and then you can turn, like, one sound into many sounds. |
| Dee | I love how this show, it just surprises me, it-it's-it's just-every show has just got-there's these in-inventions that just continually [Ben affirms.] emerge from the story, um... |
| Ben | [Interjects.] Well, this show-the story in this show is incredible. |
| Dee | [Refers to the shot tracking with the tundra tanks as they move up the snowy slope leading up to the temple.] See, that looks... that looks computer generated to me, so. |
| Ben | [Refers to the whistling sounds from the firebenders launching blasts of flame from within the tanks.] All those fire Doppler sounds, those were fun. Man, looking back at this show, it just astounds me [Laughs.] how much work goes into... |
| Dee | [Interjects.] I can't imagine, [Ben laughs.] I mean, just conceptually. |
| Ben | I mean, and... |
| Dee | [In the background.] The... |
| Ben | ... and the-and the schedule is, like, you know, two weeks. So, like, you were asking about what if I can't come up with a sound? What do I do? I-I pretty much don't have time to, like, experiment, you know, thi-like, think. [Dee affirmingly murmurs intermittently.] I don't have time to be stumped for too long. Which c-can be a good thing, because then you come up with stuff that-that you-that you wouldn't, you have less time to be scared, to... |
| Dee | [Brief pause.] Well, you've got a whole catalog of sounds in your head. You know where it all-where it all is, and where it comes from, and you just kinda dial it up, I imagine. |
| Ben | Yeah, but on this show, there's always, you-like you said, there's always something new that needs some new, crazy sound design. [Dee gives an affirming murmur.] And it's always something hyper-realistic, you know, [Refers to the sound of ice cracking as Katara waterbends an ice line underneath one of the tanks.] like-like the-like ice magic. There is no ice magic in the world. So... |
| Dee | [Brief pause.] And yet it's utterly believable. There's-there's-there's such a believability to all of this stuff, [Ben affirms.] in the-the way that it's rendered, that just really knocks me out. And they-they maintain the drama of this so beautifully by-you've got these big, metal, horrible machines versus kind of little paper gliders, and these people... |
| Ben | [In the background.] Precious spirit, yeah. |
| Dee | ... these people with no armor, I mean, it's-it's-it's really... |
| Ben | [Interjects; refers to Aang defending Katara on the ground, batting away fire blasts from the tanks with his staff.] I mean, he's twelve years. He-he's quite the underdog. |
| Dee | [Makes Momo sounds.] It's all these seemingly incidental elements that just have been so thought through and fit together so beautifully. |
| Ben | [Gives an affirming murmur; referring to the war balloon as Sokka and the mechanist fly it over the Fire Nation invaders.] This thing was kind of fun to make sounds for, because, you know, it's, like, this huge thing, [Refers to the faint stuttering sound of the balloon's propellors.] but it-it's suppo-it's k-he made it, and he's kind of, like, rickety and crazy, so-so it needs to sound huge, but also, um, kind of fragile, you know, like, not, [Dee gives an affirming murmur.] uh, not built to specification. [Laughs as Sokka says "rotten eggs".] Smell-O-Vision. |
| Dee | [Makes flatulent sounds; referring to Sokka trying to drop the balloon's engine into the natural gas deposit underneath the mountain.] He's-he's become a much more active element of the stories. He's actually helping out here. [Chuckles along with Ben.] As I remember earlier on, he's-he... |
| Ben | [Interjects; referring to the explosion sound when the deposit of natural gas ignites.] Here goes the big explosion. |
| Dee | ... he's just kinda putting the brakes on everything. |
| Ben | [Satisfied with the explosion.] Oh yeah. |
| Dee | Nice. |
| Ben | Oh yeah. [Laughs.] That's what it's all about. |
| Dee | [In a humorous voice.] That's a big explosion. [Ben chuckles; refers to the Fire Nation soldiers retreating down the mountain.] The bad guys all went away. |
| Ben | Honestly though, those huge moments are the most fun for me. The ones where they're just totally off-off the wall. And, you know, um, this is really the first show that I've worked on like this, and so it's kinda fun. You-you can see how you solve these problems, and-and all the things you've invented and how-and how [Dee gives an affirming murmur.] you did it, and it's... and then you can keep on using it. You kinda build the vocabulary. |
| Dee | [Imitates the sound made by the hermit crab Aang pets.] That's got a little ratchet sound I use, when I... |
| Ben | [Interjects.] Yeah, I like that. |
| Dee | Very small, very incidental, and yet it's nice to have a little life to it, you know. |
| Ben | Yeah, totally. |
| Dee | [Imitating the mechanist, looking concerned as the rest of his people cheer at their victory.] "I wish I'd never invented that trap door that the-the Fire Nation people could come through." |
| Ben | [Refers to when War Minister Qin and his soldiers find the crashed balloon.] And the-the big ending. I like this ending. V-very ominous. [Refers to Qin's soldiers inflating the balloon with their firebending.] That leaves you wanting more, if nothing else. |
| Dee | Alright. Beautiful. |
| Ben | Evil. [Credits begin rolling.] And here we are. Thanks, everybody. |
| Dee | Wow. |
| Ben | Thank you, Dee. I love this ending, too. |
| Dee | [Refers to the episode's credits being layered over a shot of passing mountain peaks breaching through the clouds.] Whoa, what's this? |
| Ben | You know, it's, [Referring to his credit.] and there I am, this, uh, this ending never shows on TV, 'cause they always make it smaller and, like, talk about what's coming up next. |
| Dee starts making sounds to go along with the ending music. | |
| Ben | Now, this, like, my favorite music. Yeah, we did-we did kecak. We did, like, Balinese uh, monkey chant. [Refers to the "chak" being chanted in the "End Credits" theme.] So, that's Jeremy and me on-on vocals. |
| Dee | [Refers to the rhythm of the kecak.] You got the-oh, you got the triplet going in the background. I like that. |
| Ben | Yeah. [Refers to the flute sounding in the later section of the theme.] And that's Jeremy on flute. |
| Dee | How cool. |
| Ben | Actually, that's me and Jeremy on flute. |
| Dee | Ah, that's cool. |
| Commentary ends. |