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  • ? healing is clearly an umbrella term here and firebending healing should have it's own section rather than being pushed down the trivia section. it is not a trivial information at all, it is something not one but two benders can clearly do. are you suggesting me to create a page for only firebending healing? and call it what? firebending healing? so should we name the mainstream healing as waterbending healing?

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    • The page refers specifically to the waterbending technique of healing, as is clear from the introduction to the article. Adding the firebending technique therefore does not apply in this case, and it makes more sense to note the similarities between the two in the trivia.

      The technique that you are talking about is already added on the firebending page as energy reading. If you feel that a separate article for that technique should be created you are welcome to do so, but as with any article it should be of a reasonable length to be kept in the mainspace.

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    • ok i will just change the energy reading into healing then but I think we are past the point of asssuming healing as an waterbending-exclusive talent since there are related talents in other elements

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    • But there aren't any related talents in other elements. Healing is a waterbending ability. Energy reading isn't healing.

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    • I have not read The Shadow of Kyoshi, but is the technique specifically referred to as healing?

      As far as I understand it (again without knowing what is stated in TSoK), the waterbending technique of healing is different to energy reading. They may both be referred to as healing, but the extent to which each can heal injuries is different. It does not make sense to me, therefore, to have a combined article.

      I should add as well, though, that any disagreement on the editing of an article does not mean that there is a final decision; I am happy to discuss the point if you wish, and consider a potential compromise on the changes to the article.

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    • HammerOfThor wrote:
      I have not read The Shadow of Kyoshi, but is the technique specifically referred to as healing?

      As far as I understand it (again without knowing what is stated in TSoK), the waterbending technique of healing is different to energy reading. They may both be referred to as healing, but the extent to which each can heal injuries is different. It does not make sense to me, therefore, to have a combined article.

      I should add as well, though, that any disagreement on the editing of an article does not mean that there is a final decision; I am happy to discuss the point if you wish, and consider a potential compromise on the changes to the article.

      It is compared to the Northern healing style by Kuruk. Here is the relevant quote:

      He man was a Fire National from a clan or tribe he didn’t recognize. His name was Nyahitha, he said, and after receiving a premonition, the elders of the Bhanti had sent him here to give aid to the Avatar. It was clear he had trouble believing this bedraggled mess was Great Yangchen’s successor. Nyahitha hauled Kuruk to a campsite in the jungle and performed some kind of diagnostic ritual, guiding heat along his energy pathways similar to the way a Northern healer would use the water within a patient’s body. He confirmed what Kuruk had already guessed, that coming into contact with these dark creatures and destroying them was causing damage to his own spirit. Nyahitha repaired what he could but admitted a permanent toll would be taken each time another of these battles was fought.

      He is actually doing more the shaman just waving her hands over Korra, he is channeling heat through Kuruk's body to diagnose and repair the damage.

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    • Zacatero wrote:
      But there aren't any related talents in other elements. Healing is a waterbending ability. Energy reading isn't healing.

      I would also strongly argue that the acupuncture treatment Lin got is the eartbending form of healing but that is for another day. It is not energy reading, it is diagnosing the soul.

      All types of healing has one common point and it is that they all deal with the chi flow inside the body with different results. Waterbenders heal the physical wounds, firebenders heal the soul and apparently earthbenders help with stress and memory supression (so the healing the mind?).

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    • Similarity between techniques is fine, but there are clear enough differences between them that I still don't believe a combined article makes sense. If there is enough to justify a separate article for the technique of energy reading/fire healing then I absolutely support that.

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    • I would also argue that the acupuncture could've been done by any person bender or non bender, but the metalbender was just able to control the needles. As irl we have acupuncture anyway, you don't need a special ability to perform it.

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    • Zacatero wrote:
      I would also argue that the acupuncture could've been done by any person bender or non bender, but the metalbender was just able to control the needles. As irl we have acupuncture anyway, you don't need a special ability to perform it.

      I can throw rocks as well but that doensn't make an earthbender. Precision and skill of a metalbender would override any mundane human when it comes to acupuncture, I believe but yes I admit it has less basis than the fire-healing.

      Healing is just manipulating the chi flow in the body (and bending is manipulating the elements with chi in the body, per word of God) and waterbenders and firebenders get different results.

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    • But there's no evidence of fire energy reading actually "healing". To use computer terms it seems that fire energy reading is "read-only" while water healing is "read and write"

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    • Zacatero wrote:
      But there's no evidence of fire energy reading actually "healing". To use computer terms it seems that fire energy reading is "read-only" while water healing is "read and write"

      There is evidence. It is diagnosis. Which is used in areas relating to health and Kuruk was healed. We know that %100. Everyone who read Shadow of Kyoshi comes forward to say "hey firebenders can heal too" in the discussions on reddit.

      Nyahitha hauled Kuruk to a campsite in the jungle and performed some kind of diagnostic ritual, guiding heat along his energy pathways similar to the way a Northern healer would use the water within a patient’s body. He confirmed what Kuruk had already guessed, that coming into contact with these dark creatures and destroying them was causing damage to his own spirit. Nyahitha repaired what he could but admitted a permanent toll would be taken each time another of these battles was fought.

      There is really no point in discussing further if the quote above is not enough to convince that firebenders can heal but in a different way.

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    • I am happy to concede that the technique is a form of healing, but the manner in which each technique works is different. As to the question of whether it should be listed on the healing article, my point is the same. The article concerns the waterbending technique of healing, not just healing in general. As I have said, if you feel the firebending technique should have its own article (with a change in name if appropriate), you are free to make it. Objection to having a combined article is not objection to having an article at all.

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