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  • Yakone said that he came from the most powerful line of blood benders in the world.

    the only known bloodbenders were Katara and Hama, and we know Katara's bloodline

    so do you think that Yakone and his sons are decendant of Hama( possibly grandchildren)?

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    • I really don't think that'd be possilbe I don't think Hama would have ever had the opportunity to have kids. I imagine though that after stories of her bloodbending spread that a few curious and powerful waterbenders taught themselves how to bloodbend. Look at Katara, she learned against her will how to bloodbend in less than one night. If a powerful waterbender wanted to I'm sure they could figure it out on their own. They just needed someone (Hama) to give them the idea to try.

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    • Nope because we know Hama never had childern and lived alone in the Fire Nation as a normal citizen. Yes you will say that she might have married whilist living in the FN but I highly doubt that because she hated everything that had to do with the FN except the Fire Lilies. She wouldn't have married a fire nation man even if it was the last man on Earth. So her bloodline died along with her. 

      But as Sherrod16 said she could have inspired other waterbenders. 

      You don't have to be related to Hama to be a talented bloodbender like Yakone and his sons. 

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    • I see.

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    • I made a blog about this a few months ago but it basicaly went on to explain Sherrod16 and MA02 said.  Hama never really had the opprotunity to have children,.. However, my blog also segwayed into another topic.  Do you think that Hama is the true inventor of Bloodbending or that bloodbending has been practiced in secret for centuries?  Yakone did say that he comes from a powerful line which leads one to believe someone before him in his family knew about it.  Also it seems highly unlikely that it was only discovered by Hama in the thousands of years the avatarverse has been around.  It it hard to imagine  that she is the true inventor. 

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    • Actually I think she just figured it out. Maybe some other waterbender also figured it out like she did. If I am not mistaken Yakone was from the Northen WaterTribe so someone from there could have discovred it also. Since he says he comes from a long line of powerful bloodbenders.

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    • Hama couldn't have been the one to invent it if we were to believe what Yakone said. Because he was in his 40's (maybe) when he had that trial in LOK. So either way his parents or someone else related to him much older than Hama must have discovered it.

      I mean think about it. When Katara was 14 and encountered Hama, Yakone must have been in his 20s( i'm not great with maths so might be mistaken) and Hama was already way old and had no other relatives so his parents or grandparents must have been powerful waterbenders who figured bloodbending out.

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    • Thank you, at least someone agrees with me.  haha! Last time everyone basically said, "Haha no ur stoopid! :P"

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    • It doesn't take a genius to know that 70% of the human body consist of water, so it's highly unlikely that Hama was the only one who'd think it was plausible to bloodbend another human being. Since Yakone comes from a powerful line of bloodbenders, it leaves one to wonder whether or not psychopathy runs in his family. It takes a pretty sadistic individual to pratice bloodbending on a regular basis, so that could explain why the dark art form has been in his family for generations.

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    • I don't think he's a descendant of Hama, but I do believe that he was her student. Here's my theory...

      At the end of the Hundred Year War, all prisoners held by the Fire Nation were released...Hama included. The argument could be made that Aang and Katara would have insisted that she remain incarcerated because of the danger she posed, but I would think that they would have many other concerns after the war, so Hama's release either went unnoticed or their objections were overruled. Hama would have gone back to the Southern Water Tribe, which was also being visited by Master Pakku of the Northern Water Tribe, who mentioned that he was traveling south to rebuild their sister tribe (and marry Gran-Gran). Pakku would not have been alone. He would have brought his students. I think Yakone would have been one of those students, until they developed an Obi-Wan/Darth Vader kind of situation where the pupil was corrupting the teachings of the master and Pakku cut all ties with him. Yakone would have then gravitated toward someone like Hama, or if not her, then another water-bender who had also mastered blood-bending while in captivity.

      I maintain that Yakone was from the Northern Water Tribe for three reasons. First, he was seen in flashbacks to be approximately the same age as Aang, perhaps older (not counting Aang's 100 years in the iceberg). Therefore, he would have been born before the end of the Hundred Year War, and there were no more water-benders in the Southern Water Tribe, with the exception of Katara. The second clue that Yakone is fron the Northern Water Tribe is also based on the absence of water-benders in the South. Yakone mentioned that he was from a long line of powerful benders. If there were no benders in the South, then Yakone couldn't have descended from them. Thirdly, when Yakone escaped from prison and had facial reconstruction surgery, he went to the Northern tribe to start a new life. His days as a blood-bender now forever gone, he would go someplace familiar, someplace where he had friends and family, unconnected to his criminal acquaintances back in Republic City.

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    • Hama was pretty young when she was captured, but she was old enough to have children. Think about it...she was approximately the same age as Gran-Gran (the grandmother of Sokka and Katara), and Gran-Gran was at that time old enough to have been engaged to be married back in the Northern Water Tribe, her place of birth. The marrying age for a woman was sixteen years, so Gran-Gran was at least that age when she ran away and made a new life in the Southern Water Tribe. You have to figure that at least a little more time passed to allow for Gran-Gran to develop a close friendship with Hama, as they were both seen crying when Hama was taken away by the Fire Nation. That would have happened when Hama and Gran-Gran were in their late teens at the youngest...easily enough time for Hama to marry and give birth to a child. Nevertheless, it would not have been enough time for her to raise that child or train him/her in blood-bending. In any event, Hama didn't start blood-bending until she was in prison. I suppose that Hama could have been reunited with her child after her release from prison. By that time, her child would have kids of his/her own, Yakone being among them. So it is plausible that Yakone is Hama's grandson, and that Yakone learned the basics of blood-bending from his grandmother and became even more proficient at it than she was.

      The real question is whether or not this line has continued. Yakone is now dead, but I find it difficult to believe that he didn't have any children while he was Republic City's top crime boss. Additionally, his two sons Tarrlok and Amon/Noatak are also dead (or are they?), but the Republic City council chairman and the leader of the Equalists are bound to have blood-bending kids with high-level political connections, so I would bet we haven't seen the last of this crazy family.

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    • I don't think either Amon or Tarrlok had any kids whatsoever. They don't seem like the type. Then again I might be mistaken sine Yakone was the same as them ( not the family type) but sttill had one.

      Though I am betting more on them having nothing to do with Hama. Hama only discovered bloodbending and she might have believed she was the first one to use it but I suspect she was wrong.

      Plus Yakone was a Northen Water Tribe guy. It isn't conffirmed or anything. We only know that after his bending was removed he went to the N.W.  Naturally he would go back to his place of birth where he grew up.

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    • I find it hard to believe that NWT have/had (whatever) bloodbenders. If they did, then why did they use it in the Siege of the North arc. :P

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    • Probably it was kept secret by the family who knew it. Being such an advanced and dangerous art. Or probably the people who knew it didn't use it well enough and still neded training.

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    • I bet there were bloodbenders in the north I just don't think they appeared till after the hundred year war when the story of Hama and her blood bending probably spread across the world.

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    • That would seem unlikey given the fact that Tarrlock said he comes from a strong line of bloodbenders Thus it was known before Hama developed it.

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    • Not necesarily. His father was a powerful bloodbender and based off what we know about Tarrlock's early up bringing I doubt he even ever met his father's parents. So he knows his father was a powerful bloodbender. Therefore he assumes he comes from a line of powerful bloodbenders.

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    • Yakone said that he comes from a strong line, not Tarrlok.  I'm pretty sure Yakone knows abput his family...

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    • Oh oops. Got me. 

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    • I don't think Yakone descended from Hama. She used Katara to carry on her legacy because there was no one else to. If Yakone was her grandson or son, she would've taught him. Plus, Hama could only bloodbend during the full moon. If she taught Yakone bloodbending, he wouldn't be able to bend at any time or with his mind. Since Yakone said he's from a  line of benders, we can assume he's from the Northern Water Tribe because Hama and Katara were the last benders from the Southern Tribe alive during the show. Hama settled in the Fire Nation after her imprisonment so it's unlikely she ever had a child with anyone let alone a man from the North Pole. She wouldn't even be allowed to bend there only heal

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    • exactly. Yakone has no relation to Hama. she just happened to discover bloodbending while in prison. 

      I am sure there were other bloodbenders during Aang's time but since it is such dark skill they were keeping it a secret . Yakone's family sure was around during that time.

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    • I always have this belief that Katara meant to spread the knowledge of bloodbending with good intentions. My assumption is, she spread the word about the art for medical purposes. But some unscrupolous people like Yakone used it to do crimes. So instead of spreading it further, Katara just made the art illegal.

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    • Actually Yakone implied he already knew bloodbending before Katara spread the word.

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    • Katara probably didn't spread anything about bloodbending seeing how upset she was after she used it on Hama. I don't think she'd be able to see any of the potential good it could do like how the Gaang (minus Toph) couldn't accept Zuko in the Western Air Temple

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    • That wasn't the only time Katara used bloodbending though. She used it at the then-current leader of the Southern Raiders. That means, when something calls for desperate measures, Katara is willing to bloodbend, but sparingly. 

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    • Yeah, but she was in a state of rage. I just don't think that Katara would promote bloodbending in her right mind. Maybe if she went through some darker period that we don't know about and became cold-hearted, but she'd have to be in a constant state of anger to go so against her nature.

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    • EarthKingdom wrote:
      Yeah, but she was in a state of rage. I just don't think that Katara would promote bloodbending in her right mind. Maybe if she went through some darker period that we don't know about and became cold-hearted, but she'd have to be in a constant state of anger to go so against her nature.

      Nice pun there hahaha

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    • That was unintentional, but thanks haha

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    • MasterAirbender02 wrote:
      I don't think either Amon or Tarrlok had any kids whatsoever. They don't seem like the type. Then again I might be mistaken sine Yakone was the same as them ( not the family type) but sttill had one.

      You don't need to be the "family type" to get a woman pregnant. Guys in positions of power like Amon and Tarrlok, even if unmarried, no doubt got enough strange to cover half of Republic City. They probably have illegitimate kids everywhere.

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    • You know I was wondering if Yakone was in fact a decendant of Hama... and it would have been cool if he was and it also would have been cool if he or Amon had a female sidekick like how Ozai had Azula... lets face it we would have all loved to see Korra (Aang's Succesor) and Tenzin or Kya (Katara's decendants) face off againt two bloodbending pros

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    • Maybe not a descendent of Hama but another captured waterbender? In the flashback waterbender prisoners were in cages but they could see and hear eachother, perhaps Hama told a fellow waterbender and they learned it. Was their "any" mention of what happened to the other captured waterbenders?

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    • ^ No mention really, but weren't they all from the Southern Tribe? Katara was the first bender seen there in a long time and it doesn't seem like any of their captured benders, besides Hama, escaped. Yakone's from Republic City which didnt exist when he was born. That means he has to be from the North Pole because he's around Katara's age or older and would've had to have more benders in his family. If they were former prisoners, their use of bloodbending to escape combined with Hama's should've made a lot more noise in the world. I'd expect the guards who's been beaten by all these op waterbenders to alert the Fire Lord  and make the assault against the Water Tribes more vicious. It's an interesting theory though and you could be right

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    • Thanks Earth Kingdom.

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    • You're welcome

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    • Oh yay just what I was looking for :D Well, Hama's definitely not related to Yakone, because he's from the NWT and she's from the SWT... and Yakone did imply that bloodbending had been known long before Hama... but the wiki article on bloodbending implies that Hama was the discoverer and that knowledge of it soon became widesrepad... yeah, I think that Hama either imprisoned those guards like she did to the civilians, or she just she killed them by crushing their hearts or brains or something... she's obviously smart enough to escape without getting caught and have her own inn :|

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    • There is a large gap of time between Hama discovering blodbending in prison and teaching it to Katara. Possibly Hama made a trip out of the fire nation atempting to start a family and teach waterbending. She could have had kids and then a family problem, maybe her family dident want to bloodbend and use it to attack the fire nation. This would have made Hama angry so she returns to the fire nation so she can go about with her plan of being a witch in the fire nation. Hamas mate is left with a kid who he forbids from bloodbending but grows up knowing he/she has a power other water benders dont. Hamas child grows up and feels he/she should teach bloodbending to their son, Yakone or maybe Yakone's parent depening on the age.

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    • You see young one, there's this thing called the menstrual cycle....

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    • @FourNationsWarrior Wow, that's a very plausible theory. I'm liking the sound of this :)

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    • I really think people are reading a bit too much into the whole bloodbending thing being indicitive of Yakone being a descendant of Hama.  I am not saying it's impossible, or even improbable, but I do see it as being rather moot.  Hama was not a natural born bloodbender, she taught herself the skill out of desperation after making an observation that, frankly, I highly doubt no other waterbender in the past hasn't ever considered.  Yakone could very well have learned bloodbending on his own, given that he had a natural talent for it, and his rather sadistic and powerhungry mindset would be ample reason for him to experiment with every possible avenue to power he could.  I ultimately find it far more likely that bloodbending is an art that occassionally surfaces when waterbenders come to the rather logical conclusion that humans are practically made of the stuff, and then go from there.

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    • I don't think that Yakone is descended from Hama, but I do think that they know each other. Maybe after the war ended, she got out of prison and traveled to the NWT to "spread her work". I mean, there are some plotholes. Like, Yakone claims to have a whole line in history, but the wiki article says that Hama was the discoverer and that only after knowledge of bloodbending became widespread did Yakone learn and practice bloodbending to point of pure mastery XD

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    • As I say whenever this comes up, Yakone says that his family belongs to "the most powerful line of bloodbenders," which doesn't necessitate a lengthy line.

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    • But isn't a line supopsed to go way back? The wiki article on bloodbending and waterbending imply that Yakone learned bllodbending on his own after he heard about it.

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    • No, not necessarily. The term "line" (in that context, from a philosophical perspective) simply has the intension of conveying members of the same class. It doesn't necessitate any particular length or age.

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    • "Line" refers to your lineage. Why would you boast that 3 members of your family are powerful Bloodbenders? Because Yakone is egotistical, he's constantly trying to make himself out as more powerful than he actually is. He also calls Bloodbending "the most powerful thing in the world," but no one's over-analyzing how that could be true.

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    • Oh, okay, cool. Not really, he said the most powerful and feared form of bending and, after energy bending, it is. Yakone was every bit as powerful as he made himself out to be. But thank you, Water Spout, for clearing that up :) But, no, Yakone was not exaggerating about the most powerful thing. But yes, I guess that it just became well known.

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    • ...Yes he was. Noatak even called him on it.

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    • Because Yakone didn't have bending... he said that the avatar was... and, after that, he obviously agreed and used his bending. Imagine 14 year old Noatak trying to stand up to full grown Yakone if he'd had his bending... he would've gotten slapped into next week. Yakone was not exaggerating when he said bending. All that aside, I agree that the "most powerful line in history" is too much to read into :)

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    • No, that's not what it meant, he was talking out of his butt, but whatever, I don't care, you can believe what you want.

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    • Yeah, I agree on that. And I'm not believing what I want. I agree with you that Yakone was full of himself, but not too much out of his own right, at that.

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    • I'm wondering if Hama could have found a young abandoned/orphaned Yakone and taught him the basics as a twisted form of 'self-defense.' Aang was stated to be 40ish at the time of Yakone's trial and Yakone looked a little older. So he would have been around during the end of the war. Maybe Hama took him in and he decided that her focusing on the FN was dangerous or petty or she was just cruel and he ran off.

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    • Perhaps he's her grandson. It's not impossible. Maybe after fleeing her imprisonment, she spent some time among the northerners, and had a child, who she taught bloodbending.

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    • No, it's unlikely. Yakone could just be a Waterbender that heard about Bloodbending and wanted to become stronger with it.

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    • Wow i never thought about it.. But im not sure.

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    • Aggression25 wrote: No, it's unlikely. Yakone could just be a Waterbender that heard about Bloodbending and wanted to become stronger with it.

      ^This, especially as the notions of Yakone being related to and/or apprenticing under Hama is too fanfic-y compared to the more plausible scenario that after word spread about what bloodbending is (from victims,) you'd have a whole post-war world of waterbenders, (especially if they still have a grudge against the Fire Nation) training in it, hence why Katara had it outlawed.

      Yakone's family would simply need to be powerful waterbenders in general (same way prodigies run in Zuko's family) to then train early and often in it (ex. Hama was a young adult when she started compared to Tarrlok and Noatak being children) at the expense of sanity considering it's supposed to warp the user's mind (ex. Amon/Noatak being a prime example) and then it's just a matter of said bloodbender exposing themselves as tellingly too mentally disturbed to hide it like a drug addiction.


      ...Honestly, that's some serious Fridge Horror when you think about the interquel years.

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    • I don't think so, she was to old by the time she got out to have children, she said she was in prison for decades so she might have been at least 40, little late to start having children.

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    • It's pretty unlikely that Hama had any children but maybe it's possible she had sibling who had children and maybe that's Yakones parent or grandparent 

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