The quote made no sense to me. It seems to be self-contradictory saying one should be able to move with the water while later stating it shouldn't... so which is it? Even without trying to untangle that mess of arguments, there's a very simple explaination: fluid tension. Water is a fluid that has a quite strong surface tension naturally (mostly to do with the hydrogen bonding, etc. etc., something from my chemistry days I can't recall precisely). When combined with a waterbender's affinity to manipulate water molecules, it's theoretically possible to create a hyperdense local area with enough tensile force to support human mass.
Okay I see what that quote is trying to say. But I think what is being overlooked here is the true extent of a waterbender's abilities.
"Water pressure manipulation: Waterbenders are also able to manipulate water pressure, allowing them to use water to grasp other objects or cut through without simply parting around them. Water can be used as a semi-solid while being able to move and flow like a liquid. Water can be pressurized to such a level where it can slice through metal. Waterbenders can also use this to avoid sinking in water, effectively allowing them to walk on water, as demonstrated by Katara multiple times."
^^A known skill for waterbenders. Of course in real physicals we would not be able to apply that logical, but waterbenders can basically walk on water. That, along with the aforementioned surface tension, would allow for sustained elevation in a water spout. A bender in a spout is assumed to be very skilled, as it is a difficult move. Therefore when they do the initial movement, they begin and suatain that mater manipulation, both pressure and the force it applies to them. It allows them to A) Stay about it, despite gravity B) Not "flow with it" but literally be held up by a mix of force and highly pressurized water C) Not get spun in circles becuase they are talented benders.
When it is claimed to be "walked", pretty sure it means figuratively-- as in changing the element to solid (- ice) form than walking on that frozen surface.
MeelosLeaf422 wrote: Okay I see what that quote is trying to say. But I think what is being overlooked here is the true extent of a waterbender's abilities.
"Water pressure manipulation: Waterbenders are also able to manipulate water pressure, allowing them to use water to grasp other objects or cut through without simply parting around them. Water can be used as a semi-solid while being able to move and flow like a liquid. Water can be pressurized to such a level where it can slice through metal. Waterbenders can also use this to avoid sinking in water, effectively allowing them to walk on water, as demonstrated by Katara multiple times."
^^A known skill for waterbenders. Of course in real physicals we would not be able to apply that logical, but waterbenders can basically walk on water. That, along with the aforementioned surface tension, would allow for sustained elevation in a water spout. A bender in a spout is assumed to be very skilled, as it is a difficult move. Therefore when they do the initial movement, they begin and suatain that mater manipulation, both pressure and the force it applies to them. It allows them to A) Stay about it, despite gravity B) Not "flow with it" but literally be held up by a mix of force and highly pressurized water C) Not get spun in circles becuase they are talented benders.
Is that applied to the last three gifs as well?
No, I don't think it's figurative. Phase changing into ice is one way to accomplish the same goal, another way is everything above.
Look at this phase diagram: http://d32ogoqmya1dw8.cloudfront.net/images/research_education/equilibria/h2o_phase_diagram_-_color.v2.jpg
If you don't know how to read this, follow the Y-axis for pressure, X-axis for temperature. The only way to turn water into ice is by decreasing temperature (move left on the x-axis) below ambient. Without changing the temperature, water stays in liquid form no matter the pressure (move up on the y-axis). Basically draw a vertical line up at ~ 25 Celsius, it will never intersect with either solid nor gas phase above 1 atm. Water will exist in fluid form at ambient temperature despite increasing pressure.
Yeah I get that, but how come can they "walk in water"? I only seen them 'standing' in spot, and if they did, it just - idk would look like weird... therefor I don't think its possible.
Why shouldn't it be possible given everything just stated other than that some people find it 'weird'? Firebenders shoot fire out of their feet, but that still happens. There's a whole spirit world made of who knows what, and somehow some people can manipulate chi and others can't... None of which have real life physical equivalents. Perhaps we can accept the whole Avatarverse is just weird. It's fantasy, not exactly scifi. lol
Well if you just think weird things aren't possible then we've moved out of physics logic and understanding and into opinion and comfort levels with what you like and don't like to determine possibilities. I have no argument to nullify what you think is "weird". Sorry.
Ok I see. Thank you for all of you giving insightful evidence :) I'm now educated finally :D
When I first saw this, I initially thought it was someone complaining about Water Spout, the admin. Apparently not :P