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Proposal #2 will be done |
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I propose that we change the name of our article "Earth Empire" to simply "Earth Empire". It contains more than just the military aspects of Kuvira's organization, as it was more than just an army. The history in this article goes from the empire's formation to the last conflicts and its fall, and ends with the content that we usually keep to military pages like "Military of the Earth Kingdom". While the military is part of the Earth Empire, they are two different things and whenever we link the term "Earth Empire" in other pages, we link it to an article that, according to its title, apparently talks only about its military.
So there are basically three options:
- We keep everything the way it is. The article keeps its title.
- We rename the article to "Earth Empire" and expand on the other aspects of it, such as "politics", "appearance", and "notable figures" (sections we have for pages like Earth Kingdom). We would keep the whole "Army" section.
- We separate it into two articles: "Earth Empire" and "Military of the Earth Empire". We have enough content for both (though they will not be as long as they are now) even if we don't add any word to either page.
Thoughts? Dcasawang1 • wall 19:16, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Absolutely. I had this very thought a few days ago, when I was planning to link Earth Empire, but couldn't find it. This is great, and every point you make is right. 🌀 Tibhod 🌀 19:22, 4 January 2022 (UTC)|
- I agree with the initiative. I think number 2 might be the best option, but if there is a majority for 3 (with a short summary of the military aspects in the main Earth Empire article, and then another big article for the military itself, like for the Earth Kingdom), this could be okay, too. My favourite is number 2, though. PhoenixWright12321 (wall • contribs) 20:10, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- I think I lean more towards number 2, but number 3 also has merit. Number 3 is consistant with other nation and military pages, while number 2 seems simpler and as HoT pointed out, the military of the EE is rather connected to every other aspect of the EE. Either way, having an article named "Earth Empire" seems useful. Bomochu (wall • fanon) 00:38, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Agree that it should be 2 or 3. My only concern with 3 is that, since as mentioned, military is very ubiquitous to EE, having two articles would create significant redundancy. Whichever way this goes, I would like to underpin the necessity to update the relevant templates and categories if necessary in case there are title moves. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 04:42, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- I remember having conversed with both HammerOfThor and Lady Lostris about this, back in July 2021. Both of them found my reasons to create an Earth Empire page (Since there was a page on the Earth Empire military) unconvincing. They had their reasons behind the rejection of my plan that caused me to give up, mostly because Earth Empire wasn't a nation, it was a military campaign, you know, like aiming to lead a ruined nation as a dictator. As such, since this was related to the Earth Kingdom, some of the info on Earth Empire were put in the Earth Kingdom page (including the campaign as a whole). The Military of EP as a whole represented EP, though its formation had its own page like the case of the military. That said, I actually feel like the page needs to be renamed as 'Earth Empire', while adding minor details that are from pages related to the Earth Kingdom that have any important content on the Earth Empire. Yohan Mavely talk
16:25, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- I remember having conversed with both HammerOfThor and Lady Lostris about this, back in July 2021. Both of them found my reasons to create an Earth Empire page (Since there was a page on the Earth Empire military) unconvincing. They had their reasons behind the rejection of my plan that caused me to give up, mostly because Earth Empire wasn't a nation, it was a military campaign, you know, like aiming to lead a ruined nation as a dictator. As such, since this was related to the Earth Kingdom, some of the info on Earth Empire were put in the Earth Kingdom page (including the campaign as a whole). The Military of EP as a whole represented EP, though its formation had its own page like the case of the military. That said, I actually feel like the page needs to be renamed as 'Earth Empire', while adding minor details that are from pages related to the Earth Kingdom that have any important content on the Earth Empire. Yohan Mavely talk
- Agree that it should be 2 or 3. My only concern with 3 is that, since as mentioned, military is very ubiquitous to EE, having two articles would create significant redundancy. Whichever way this goes, I would like to underpin the necessity to update the relevant templates and categories if necessary in case there are title moves. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 04:42, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
