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Platypus bear egg

Merge — I see no reason to give these their own article, they should be merged with the Platypus bear, simply because they are both related to the same animal, and there is not much of a reason to leave them standing alone; neither of them are lengthy enough to make it frustrating to merge. The information is relevant to the Platypus bear, and is more convenient to anyone who may be researching them to have the two together. Truly Ferret 03:59, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — I disagree with you Fire Ferret. The egg article still has quite a bit of history that is relevant, with information not necessarily appropriate to the platypus bear article. Plus, it does have a reasonable length. And there are other articles comparable to this, like the Dragon egg article, which could be arguably merged with Dragon, yet still wouldn't be able to encompass the history without the article format looking awkward to say the least. KettleMeetPot (wall • contribs) 04:07, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

I understand, but the egg history could easily be merged with the history of a Platypus bear, perhaps underneath a special section about eggs. The dragon egg article is different: we don't have a history on Gaang run-ins with dragons in the Dragon section, whereas we do with Platypus bears and Platypus bear eggs. I understand why we would keep the Platypus bear egg article, but I also see why it may be more useful to merge the two. Truly Ferret 04:25, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — How many times do we see a platypus bear egg? Once? Definitely merge it onto the platypus bear page. DarkKnightRises (wall • contribs) 20:11, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — I would normally agree with this proposal, but we have Dragon egg, which is hardly any different from this case. No need to merge.  Technology Wizard  Wall  Contribs  21:57, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

I explained above that the Dragon egg is different, because that page is mostly history of Dragon-egg run-ins with the gaang, while our Dragon page doesn't have gaang-run ins in it. Both the Platypus bear article and the Platypus bear egg have a history of run-ins with the gaang. That is why the two articles are different. Truly Ferret 22:01, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

I guess, but the parts regarding the run-ins with the gaang can be edited out.  Technology Wizard  Wall  Contribs  22:04, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

On which section? If you remove it from the egg article, it is practically nothing, likewise with the actual Platypus bear one, and we do keep a list of run-ins for most minor creatures. Truly Ferret 22:06, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

If Dragon doesn't have gaang run-ins, but the Dragon egg article does, then we should uniform the articles and make it so the Platypus article doesn't have gaang run-ins in it, and the egg article to have them included, or visa versa.  Technology Wizard  Wall  Contribs  22:17, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

No, the Dragon Egg article has run-ins with dragon eggs, not dragons themselves. And, the problem with doing that vise-versa is that then the egg articles would loose a huge amount of their quantity, making them rather small.Truly Ferret 22:21, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — easily merge. do you want to make separate pages for every mentioned creatures offsprings eggs? no, it belongs on the same page as the animal. and the reasoning for the dragon egg being the exception is sound. Rydersilver (wall • contribs)

Merge — I have been convinced otherwise per above.  Technology Wizard  Wall  Contribs  07:03, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — The information in the Platypus bear egg article would be better suited for the Platypus bear article. AnonAmon (wall • contribs) 22:25, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — useless, could do just fine in platypus bear article.--Tree_Climber 02:13, June 24, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Indeed, it would be better incorporated into the platypus bear article. The Ultimate Waterbender 02:18, June 24, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Per above. --Johnaras002 (wall • contribs) 19:15, June 24, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — i agree. platypus bear eggs dont have a significant part in the series at all, so it should just be merged. SukitheNinja (wall • contribs) 19:25, June 24, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — They were seen in two episodes, and had no relevance to the main storyline whatsoever. Avatar Shroom (wall • contribs) 16:17, June 25, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Hey. We can create one article that talks about the different kinds of eggs. it would be easier right? 00:36, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

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Clock

Merge — This clock was a part of the buildings on Aang Memorial Island and since there is not much to tell about it besides a description of the clock itself and the numbers -cause really, it's just a clock, what's to tell- I suggest we give it its own little section on the AMI page, instead of its own short page. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 20:26, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — I think it's best we keep it, as it is not necessary that this be the only clock: it's the only one we've seen, but I think it's fine if we wait and see. Matey Y. (talk • A:TLoM)  20:29, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Wait and see for what exactly? The season's over, the next will be not till next year, so what information are we waiting on? Lady Lostris /  SOAP 20:32, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, you're right.

Merge — I don't think there is enough information to warrant its own page. If we get more information next season we can create a new page then, but since that is a while off, merging it with AMI seems best. HAMMEROFTHØR (wall) • 20:36, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Actually, I guess we don't need to be so general when we've only seen one. Per Lostris. Matey Y. (talk • A:TLoM)  20:38, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — When i created this page I wasn't just talking about one clock and the one clock being that on avatar aang memorial island that of being more than one as a time keeping device like the one we saw in the last series on the day of black sun we only saw one Time candle and Timing device but we still have those pages don't we? So I just want to say think about what I'm trying to say! User:Stepo9 15:45, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

This is not about pride about creating a page, it is about how to best convey certain information. As it stands now, that clock, the one on AMI, is the only one that has been shown and as such, it is more relevant to give that information on the AMI page instead of having its own separate page which leads people to have to click an extra link to get the information. In terms of the internet, one click is a lot to do for people. It's just more logical to combine relevant information instead of spreading it out. The fact that we have a separate page for the time candle and device has more to do with the fact that they are separate objects that are not part of a bigger picture than anything else, so that comparison does not fly. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 21:05, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — It's a clock. The time candle and eclipse timing devices have their own pages because they are individual devices. The only clock we've seen is on Aang Memorial Island. Just write it there. DarkKnightRises (wall • contribs) 20:52, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

And a clock isn't a individual device is that what your trying to say really, okay explain to me why it should be deleted? User:Stepo9 16:00, June 26,2012 (UTC)

It should not be deleted, the information should be kept but merged with the other more relevant page. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 21:06, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Go ahead and delete it you have my vote. User:Stepo9 16:24, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — it is part of aang memeorial island, so could be merged with it, aswell as with technology showing the development of that technology, but does not need a page of its own. --Tree_Climber 21:28, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — it's part of Aang's legacy (lol). I vote merge because I think that it's useless to have another page when it's related to the other; We could just add it to Aang's memory island article. Unnamed Airbender (wall • contribs) 21:33, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — As per everyone above. AnonAmon (wall • contribs) 21:48, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Merging at this point is the best option. The clock would be a nice addition to the Aang Memorial Island page. WaterbenderTaikai 00:49, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Why to delete or merge its just a new object and we have to keep it.  LegendaryNinja 06:06, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Just merge and be done with it! Absolutely nothing of value on the article, which can be easily merged. KettleMeetPot (wall • contribs) 06:09, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Per LL. Acer Indonesia Ask anything about fanon! • TCA:TFF 06:15, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Per Lostris.  Technology Wizard  Wall  Contribs  06:18, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — It is an important piece of technology that wasn't in the original series. Maybe it should even be merged onto the technology page? That or just have the specific clock on the Aang Memorial Island page. Other things per all in support of merging. MibuWolf 06:20, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — This should not be deleted, but it should not have its own page either. Lemongrab 06:38, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

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Zheng

Delete — To copy-and-paste my reasoning from Lostris' wall:

"After reading the article and thinking back to episodes of the show, I can't recall a time when the instrument appeared in the series. The absence of an image of the zheng on the article further supports this theory. This should lead us to believe that the instrument was only used in the show for background music ("The zheng is used for much of the ambient music of the show, such as during the Tale of the Two Lovers, and for the Beifongs' theme"). Therefore, shouldn't the article be considered simply a real-world object? There's no proof that it exists in the show."

Everyone agree? --Krazykid51 22:24, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Although we have pages about characters and placed that were but mentioned, I don't see why we need this one. Matey Y. (talk • A:TLoM)  22:26, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Agreed, per Krazykid. Annawantimes (Talk) 22:34, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — This page is a little unnecessary. I agree with it's deletion. Lemongrab 06:41, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Sounds well reasoned to me. Vulmen (talk • EoK) 22:50, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Per all. MibuWolf 03:19, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — For the record, there were a number of these instruments in the music stall in Iroh's tale in "Tales of Ba Sing Se." See here: http://DVDscreenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/atla/215/170.jpg. There is therefore an in-universe example, so that line of argument won't work. Since we have pages for much more trivial things, I don't see any reason to delete this. telane (wall • contribs) 18:37, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — There is hardly any info to support this article.  Technology Wizard  Wall  Contribs  19:08, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — As TLane pointed out, the object does exist. I'm for either keeping the article, or - rather than duplicate the tiny tidbit of info about them, have it merged with Music in the World of Avatar. There is already information there; but perhaps add in where the instrument can be found. Vulmen (talk • EoK) 21:31, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Thanks for mentioning that, TLane. :) I'm with Vulmen, I think it should be merged with the Music in the WoA article, per his reasoning. Annawantimes (Talk) 05:28, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Well if it exists, I'd usually vote to keep it, but considering it only had such an insignificant appearance, one so little that almost no one had even realized it had one (thanks TLane!), lets just merge it with the Music in the World of Avatar article. --Krazykid51 17:46, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Looking more closely at the Music in the World of Avatar page, I've decided to change my vote. Such a small page with practically no links is bound to be only clutter and gets almost no traffic, but the information is valuable and would do well to be moved to the Music in the World of Avatar page. (And I think there is already a copy of the information on that page.) So, let's merge it. telane (wall • contribs) 18:49, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — not shown or described enough to warrant having a page.--Tree_Climber 00:51, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Yes but read the merge reasons given - the information is not to be deleted entirely but to be moved to Music in the World of Avatar. Vulmen (talk • EoK) 00:53, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — I think that this information should be put onto the music in the world of avatar page, because the whole Zheng page itself is shorter than some of the sections on the music page. It would be appropriate to put it in there. TheLoKnessmonster (wall • contribs) 19:16, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — I agree with the reasoning that this page is unneccessary. AnonAmon (wall • contribs) 13:01, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

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Feathered hat man

Delete —This characters is just an extra in the show: one of Bryke's default backgrounders. There is no reason to have an article just for him, he's even more minor than HOWL, whose article, which was speedily deleted. Truly Ferret (a •) 16:06, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — We have pages for locations and characters that were but mentioned. We also have a page called apple. How on earth would these be more relevant than a minor character who appeared in four out of twelve total episodes? Matey Y. (talk • A:TLoM)  16:08, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Like foaming mouth guy, he should get this page. Acer Indonesia Ask anything about fanon! • TCA:TFF 15:09, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Do we have an article for the Fire Nation soldier with an eye patch? Or the one with a mustache? No, because they were simply extras. CM and FM both had SIGNIFICANT lines or actions, this guy is just a background character. Truly Ferret (a •) 16:21, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

He's soooo many appeared in a lot of episode, and just like Cabbage Corp; the one different is Cabbage corp has line but he rarely has. Acer Indonesia Ask anything about fanon! • TCA:TFF 16:31, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — The Page has no real information in it. Just a few times where he was in the background. He's not even a minor character! It also has false information. It states that he is like the cabbage man or the foaming mouth guy from the original series; those to people were actually noticeable. - He really isn't. OWL (wall • contribs) 16:13, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

I have noticed that alot of people have been trying to improve the page, but that might be making it worse, there's actually more false information on the page than before! I think it's a fun extra, but unnecessary. O.W.L.(My Blog) 03:20, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

There is no false information on the page, at least, not that I've added; you may check all of those appearances and see for yourself. That's not how we roll on here. Monkeyfeathers94 (wall • contribs) 03:30, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Thankfully, not anymore. It has all been taken off. People have been working furiously to better the page, so I am now conflicted. O.W.L.(My Blog) 19:00, July 8, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — He's discussed enough that he should be mentioned in this wiki. And it's not just four, he's in nearly all the epis in LoK. Besides, this wiki has a page for Corncob guy, possibly the most obscure character you could hope for. You can't argue he doesn't need an article when the criteria for a character page are seemigly arbitrary. Furthermore, enough people have edited this article that it deserves to be kept. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Regal lionturtle (wall • contribs) This note was added on 16:31, June 30, 2012 (UTC).

Keep — although he didn't say anything, he was in episodes. I agree with Regal Lionturtle and Acer. Wangfire 16:34, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Per Rl. I'd say that appearance in seven episodes would be enough to have a page for him. Dcasawang1 • wall 17:00, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — I'd also agree that we should keep this. Like the sensitive ruffian or the Fire Ferrets cosplayers, he's one of those fun pages that we have on the wiki to reflect the light-hearted spirit of the show. Users can even play a sort of "Where's Waldo" game if he shows up in season two, trying to find all the scenes where he shows up. I checked out the page itself and there was a lot more in History than I was expecting. It's not a repeat of any page and I think this information is relevant. Monkeyfeathers94 (wall • contribs) 17:17, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Since casting my vote, I've added quite a bit of content to this page. I don't want to seem like I'm emotionally attached to it and will protest vigorously if it is deleted, but it has been substantially fleshed out and has the potential to improve still further. I add this to my assertion that it is an important page in its own right. Monkeyfeathers94 (wall • contribs) 18:53, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — We have other pages with the same amount of significance. The precedent has worked fine up until now. I see no pressing need to change it. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message me • Read my fanon) 17:45, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — There's a good amount of info to support the article.  Technology Wizard  Wall  Contribs  19:08, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Per above, there's actually a decent amount of content, which usually correlates somewhat to significance. MibuWolf 20:01, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Per ARG. Water Spout 21:32, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Why noy? Per Water Spout --> Per ARG! KettleMeetPot (wall • contribs) 15:39, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Initially I was in support of deleting this, but seeing the reasoning above and hearing some additional reasoning, I think we should keep this article. Annawantimes (Talk) 15:47, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — There are plenty of unnamed people with their own pages Lemongrab 16:13, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Though he has been deen many times throughout the series, so little is known about him that his own page just clutters the site.--Tree_Climber 00:53, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — We have a page for seagulls...-___-....seagulls. I think we can keep a page about a man who wears a feathered hat who has appeared numerous times. SifuHotman90 00:57, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Although he was more a background character with few lines, he was apparently a recurring character whose subtle and frequent presence in the background was of some significance. I believe this page should stay. The Ultimate Waterbender 01:07, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — We have pages for all sorts of characters. AnonAmon (wall • contribs) 16:23, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — As per most people, he appears regularly and there is a decent amount of information about him. FooFoo (wall • contribs • blog) 08:04, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — He was in several episodes, showing up in the background at many events in the season. I say keep as he is a recurring character, even if he has less lines then the classic Cabbage Merchant. WaterbenderTaikai 19:44, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — I don't see a reason to delete it. Unnamed "Meelo Fanboy" Airbender 11:51, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

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Ming (Pro-bender)

Merge — I do believe that page was very similar to Ming (pro-bender), but Divine didn't noticed that. Acer Indonesia Ask anything about fanon! • TCA:TFF 15:00, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Definitely, it seems very likely that Divine just didn't notice that there was already a page. MibuWolf 17:04, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

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Recap of previous episodes

Delete — What is even the point of this? We are an Avatar encyclopedia, not a dictionary. There is very little content on this page, and unless someone is planning on expanding that page with a summary of every "previous on Avatar" and every "newsreel" -not that I think that is a good idea, as that seems rather redundant- I do not see how this could be expanded. The page does nothing more than explain what a recap of previous episodes is and that it was used in both shows. Seems rather unneeded to me. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 19:38, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Per LL. Unless that page will catalog all recaps in detail, I see not point in keeping it. ― Thailog 19:41, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — With Opening sequence. GhostUser (wall • contribs) 20:32, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Unneeded. Per Lostris. Matey Y. (talk • A:TLoM)  22:09, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — I've added the catalog. Acer Indonesia Ask anything about fanon! • TCA:TFF 08:15, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Since this information is on each episode's transcript page...delete. DarkKnightRises (wall • contribs) 10:27, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — LOL! Redundant page is redundant! KettleMeetPot (wall • contribs) 10:44, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Totally unneeded. AnonAmon (wall • contribs) 13:51, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Per all. – Natsu11 · (wall • Nanatsu no Taizai) 13:57, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — with opening sequence. basically the same thing. --74.137.94.5 20:29, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

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The Legend Of Korra Book's

Delete — This page has unconfirmed information, and serves no real purpose other than stating a thought. Lemongrab 21:52, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

The page lacks credible information and references. It has been tagged for deletion. --I'm The Bos ^Wall 21:58, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — I agree with Lemongrab. It also has terrible grammar, making it not understandable anyway. It should just be a blog post and I don't think it has any other place on this wiki. Icarlyftw (wall 22:02, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — As per Lemongrab. AnonAmon (wall • contribs) 13:52, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

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Hide and explode

Merge — With Sports and games in the World of Avatar. The only info we can gather about this game (from the one episode it has been mentioned in) is that Aang once played it so you don't necessarily have to be a firebender to play. I think it would fit better under the "sports and games" hub article. GhostUser (wall • contribs) 14:29, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Keep like we have keept the other games. LegendaryNinja. (wall • A:AitN) 14:51, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Because it displays such a stand-alone game that is unique to the Avatar universe. This is the same reason we have animal pages. Vulmen (talk • EoK) 15:25, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Per Vulmen's reasoning; if there's no page on it on Avatar Wiki, there's no page anywhere. Obscure and comprehensive info is what a wiki is for. Monkeyfeathers94 (wall • contribs) 15:36, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — After reading through the article, I noticed that it's incredibly short with some speculative material, it can easily be merged with the Sports and Games in the WoA article. Annawantimes (Talk) 15:57, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Per Annawan. Rip off that speculative/assumption bit about firebenders and it's far too short to justify an article. Katara and Bolin Fanboy Send me a messenger hawk 16:03, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — But remove speculative info. Even if that only leaves a couple of sentences, oh well. I ran across an article when "random page"ing the other day with one, miniscule sentence. What it was totally escapes me, but still. It's a standalone game. No reason to merge.If your doctor is sick, then who is healing you? Read. It's good for you. 16:17, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

EDIT: There is no speculation on the article. It is true that not all players have to be firebenders, as Aang was not a firebender when he played it. No reason to remove anything, merge anything, or delete anything.

Keep — Per Vulmen. Matey Y. (talk • A:TLoM)  16:26, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — There's not a lot known about it, and there's not a lot of information on that page that's not already on Sports and games in the World of Avatar, so there's really no point in keeping it. SukitheNinja (wall • contribs) 18:10, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — The article is fine, regardless if it is short. I mean, look at John McBon.  Technology Wizard  Wall  Contribs  18:32, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — This article has no information that is not already seen in the Sports and games in the World of Avatar Hide and explode section. You can compare, and the main page is simply a rewording of the general page's section. Also, the John McBon page has 3 quality errors, and isn't a very good article overall. I also would not mind if the page was deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ScholarOfTheDesert (wall • contribs) This note was added on 13:38, July 8, 2012 (UTC).

Keep — Even if it is short, I think it is still a good contribution to the wiki. AnonAmon (wall • contribs) 15:14, July 8, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Per Vulmen. Acer Indonesia Ask anything about fanon! • TCA:TFF 15:17, July 8, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Per Vulmen. It is a fun page that has good information, hence becoming a good contibution that deserves to be kept. O.W.L.(My Blog) 19:06, July 8, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Per others. Truly Ferret (a •) 03:58, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

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Bison polo

Merge — This page has very little information. It would be better off as a section of a different page. This should be fused with the page for Sports and games in the World of Avatar. Lemongrab 22:29, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Enough information about it to be kept in my opinion, aswell as important information to air nomad culture, since there is so little known about it. --Tree_Climber 01:37, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — As per the reasons I said to keep Hide and explode as well. These are unique one-offs that only exist on Avatar Wiki. It's already linked on the Sports page, as well. Plus there is no room on the sports page to keep the only place people can probably find the image of what bison polo would look like in action. Vulmen (talk • EoK) 03:35, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — It may need some work and more information, but I don't see a need for it to be merged or deleted.  Technology Wizard  Wall  Contribs  04:31, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Hide and explode was kept and it is very short as well. SukitheNinja 17:21, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Per everyone above. Matey Y. (talk • A:TLoM)  21:23, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — I'm in support of keeping of this one, the situation is a bit different here than with the Hide and explode article. This one has a bit more information and less speculation, so I see no reason for it to go. Annawantimes (Talk) 22:40, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Well, there isn't much else to say. I like keeping articles whenever possible anyway. KettleMeetPot (wall • contribs) 04:48, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — It's just like the Hide and explode page, and pointed out by Vulmen. AnonAmon (wall • contribs) 15:04, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — I voted to keep Hide and Explode, and I vote to keep this one. Articles like these are unique to this wiki. I had never even heard of Bison polo until I came upon this article. The thing I love about wikis is that you can go to a random page and learn something new about something you love. O.W.L.(My Blog) 22:37, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

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Book 2: Spirits

Merge — I think the page should be merged to List of The Legend of Korra episodes, as that is where the information on Book 1: Air is. Currently, it is too short to be an article of its own, especially if the previous book still doesn't get its own article. Matey Y. (talk • A:TLoM)  21:22, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — The ATLA series' books have their own pages. The Korra series' books should as well. The previous book of Korra should have it's own page as well.  Technology Wizard  Wall  Contribs  21:28, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — This page should be merged. Book 1: Air does not have it's own page. Lemongrab 21:29, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — ATLA has it own pages for it's books, Why should LoK won't have them? Unnamed Airbender (Message Me) 21:30, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — I agree with Matey on this one. It should be added to the List of The Legend of Korra episodes Momoam15 21:42, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Merge it to List of The Legend of Korra episodes, per Matey's explanation. --Icarlyftw talk to me 22:41, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Yeah, should be merged until we have more info. The Kid 100% (wall • contribs)

Merge — I agree as per above. We just don't have enough information on it yet. SukitheNinja 02:28, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — I'd suggest merging for the time being until a substantial amount of information is released. —Arrow^(talk)→ 04:25, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Agreed, as per above. ^^" Annawantimes (Talk) 04:32, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Still too early to add any substantial information to it. Thus, merge. KettleMeetPot (wall • contribs) 04:35, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Really uneeded ^^ Acer Indonesia Ask anything about fanon! • TCA:TFF 13:56, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Per Tech. I think it should have its own page being a different book, with the UC tag. Dcasawang1 • wall 15:56, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — No point at all. LegendaryNinja. (wall • A:AitN) 17:10, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — I think that with all the information that has come out during comic con there is a enough to keep the page separate. I know that I have found plenty of pictures and credited information to keep it separate. Sokka jr • Wall • Blogs• Fanon 17:40, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — As per Lemongrab AnonAmon (wall • contribs) 13:52, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

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Iroh (United Forces general)'s relationships

Delete — There's not very much information on his relationships, and we don't know how much he will be appearing nor how much info we will get. Also, I believe his character status makes this page against the forum consensus that was reached earlier in the week. Katara and Bolin Fanboy Send me a messenger hawk 13:45, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

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John McBon

Delete — This page has no references, and according to the user TheLoKnessmonster's searches, he may not even exist.ScholarOfTheDesert (wall • contribs) 16:19, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Hey, I just found out that Wikipedia deleted its article about him, and they say that it was a hoax page. Also, how on earth would Cretan heiroglyphs help out the show? Doing some more checks, I found out he is listed nowhere on IMDB for All In the Family like it claims, and there is no such thing as a Cretan hieroglyph, because neolithic Crete used the same alphabet as the rest of Greece, the Mycenaean Linear B script. TheLoKnessmonster (wall • contribs) 20:08, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

Looking even farther into this (Hey, I'm a bit obsessed once I get into a topic,) I found that before linear B script on Crete there was the Linear A script of the Minoans which were centered around Crete, but linear A has never been deciphered so there is no one with knowledge of Cretan Hieroglyphs. TheLoKnessmonster (wall • contribs) 20:24, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Per above, unless someone can find a reference to suggest otherwise. HAMMEROFTHØR (wall) • 20:14, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — There's no source, so this shouldn't be an article.  Technology Wizard  Wall  Contribs  21:35, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Creepy... and yeah, doesn't seem legitimate. Delete. --Krazykid51 21:38, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — per all.Iceland77

Delete — definitely, as per all above. SukitheNinja 22:36, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Excellent research, my fellow anthropology geek! I would absolutely agree that this page must go. Monkeyfeathers94 (wall • contribs) 23:36, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Per everyone above. Matey Y. (talk • A:TLoM)  01:44, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Per above. KettleMeetPot (wall • contribs) 01:45, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Searches are turning up el zilcho for me. Katara and Bolin Fanboy Send me a messenger hawk 01:53, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — What more needs to be said? —Arrow^(talk)→ 08:45, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Per everyone. AnonAmon (wall • contribs) 14:43, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

I've found a few more references to him by searching Google, "John McBon Cretan Hieroglyphs", but none of them validate his identity any more than what we've already gotten about him: For one, he was mentioned here in the literature section of an article describing Cretan Hieroglyphs. He also has a small info page dedicated to himself. Then basically all of this information was almost completely copy-pasted to here and here, or vice-versa, respectively. Finally I have this page that also seems to have copy-pasted its info from another one of those websites. However, it is most-likely that every single one of these pages have had their information copy-pasted from the Wikipedia articles for Cretan Hieroglyphs and John McBon, as the first two instances I presented credited Wikipedia, and the others had information copy-pasted from the previous.

I just felt like posting this because this McBon guy has been running around in my head lately. The possibilities of everything that could or couldn't be true are kinda creeping me out. However, if All in the Family ever returns to TV Land, I'll be sure to look out for an episode with Ed the Repairman and try to keep up with the credits. --Krazykid51 15:08, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — This person doesn't exist, per all. Letters2Numbers (wall • contribs) 17:38, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

I would like to point out that even if he did exist, none of those references say anything about him working on Avatar. Whether he exists or not, he has no place on this wiki. I'd vote delete again if possible. TheLoKnessmonster (wall • contribs) 18:29, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Yeah, pretty much per everone above...Eat Cabbages, ...they're good for you... Isn't little Yangchen cute? 16:17, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

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Psychic Bloodbending

Delete — We already have Bloodbending#Psychic bloodbending. If anything add some of the information from there to Bloodbending#Psychic bloodbending.  Technology Wizard  Wall  Contribs  05:40, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — It should be deleted as there is not enough information for a separate page. MD 14:48, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Battles in the Air Nomads|Battles in the Air Nomads

Keep — The category has two pages, but a similar category for the Water Tribes has two pages also and a similar category for the Fire Nation currently has only three pages. There has been some dispute over the name. Since it's the name of the nation, I believe "Air Nomads" is correct. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message me • Read my fanon) 04:07, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — I'm not against the category, it's just improperly named and should be fixed. Categories can't be moved, so the only way to fix it is to delete it and start over with the right name.DancePowderer Talk 04:11, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

But isn't the name of the nation simply "Air Nation"? Because "Battles in the Air Nomads" makes it sound as if you're saying there are battles that took place inside Air Nomads. I also looked back and saw that DancePowderer was trying to change it to "Battles in the Air Temples". Well the air temples are simply places where the Air Nomads resided; they were not the nation, but the prominent places that made up the nation. Finally, I've seen the Air Nomads referred to as the Air Nation before when appropriate, like on the United Republic of Nations article.

So I say we just change it back to what I originally named it, Battles in the Air Nation. --Krazykid51 14:32, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Per ARG. Matey Y. (talk • A:TLoM)  14:34, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

Per DancePowderer and Krazykid, the name makes no English sense at all. "Air Nomads" is not a location. The 888th Avatar (talk) 14:36, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe "Battles of the Air Nomads" would be better. SukitheNinja 15:22, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it would be. What I meant by keep was that the category should be kept. However, it should be recreated, so that means it will need be technically deleted. Matey Y. (talk • A:TLoM)  21:57, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

To be consistent with the other battle categories, I think it should be "Battles in the Air Nation" since the other three are called "Battles in the (Fire Nation, Earth Kingdom, Water Tribes)".DancePowderer Talk 03:00, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

That would be consistent, but that would not be accurate. The only time "Air Nation" has been heard is when Tenzin was councilman (long after the war was over and the world was different) and a fabrication by a Fire Nation schoolteacher. It has to be "Air Nomads", or else "Air temples." "Air Nation" doesn't work for this. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message me • Read my fanon) 03:03, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Then it would have to be Air Temples, otherwise it sounds like the battles were fought in someone's stomach or something.DancePowderer Talk 07:23, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, "nation" might work. Tenzin wasn't the first to use it. Remember the pop quiz in The Headband? The teacher asked in what year Sozin battled the Air Nation armies. So it was used during the war.DancePowderer Talk 07:26, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

"Battles at the Air Temples" is the most accurate if we're going by the location paradigm. The 888th Avatar (talk) 13:10, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Fair enough. Battles at the Air Temples for me, then.DancePowderer Talk 15:43, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Like I said, "Air Nomads" is the name of the nation as a whole, so it's not being fought in someone's stomach. Nevertheless, "Air Temples" is an acceptable compromise. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message me • Read my fanon) 18:25, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, but nomads can also be used to describe the people, which is what makes it sound odd. I could say Aang is an Air Nomad, but I couldn't say Haru is and Earth Kingdom. It's the double meaning that is offputting.DancePowderer Talk 21:01, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Air Nomads has a double meaning. It refers to the group of people, and it's also the name of the country, just like Water Tribes. Look, I doubt we're going to agree on this, but we don't need to, since we agree on "Air Temples", another alternative naming. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message me • Read my fanon) 21:06, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

True, I can feel this turning into a circular argument. So Air Temples. Nuff said.DancePowderer Talk 22:53, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — too small a category--Tree_Climber Bonjour! 00:50, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Though I question its naming, I do feel the battles that took place here are too historically significant to not be categorized. SparksFromHades (wall • contribs) 01:09, July 25, 2012 (UTC)SparksFromHades

We're keeping it, it's just a matter of renaming.DancePowderer Talk 02:04, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

So, where do we go from here? Vote? Or just delete and recreate the category since the majority is leaning that way?DancePowderer Talk 18:29, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

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Republic City sewers

I recently added a page for this, and the amount of information contained in it is a rather drastic difference. I believe that Republic City sewers should be deleted, as it has little useful information. Frui (🌹 • 🐝 • 🐝🐝) 14:22, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Yes, the amount of article content is significantly different. However, there is also this article that focuses on a similar subject, a network of tunnels beneath Republic City. That begs the question of what should be done with that. The Ultimate Waterbender 14:29, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Edit conflict: I deleted the duplicated, and renamed RC Sewers to RC sewers. However, I propose we merge Republic City tunnel network with this one. Dcasawang1 • wall 14:34, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

I agree. I didn't realise we had a page for the tunnel network, and it has far more useful information regarding the Equalists, however I think we need to retain the information considering the township Frui (🌹 • 🐝 • 🐝🐝) 14:37, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Agreed; the two are best merged with, as Fruipit said, additional information also included. The Ultimate Waterbender 14:41, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Merge —I believe the underground labyrinth was referred to as tunnels by Lin in episode 9, as quoted in Republic City tunnel network|said article. Axiovatar Talk 14:49, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

We could merge the Sewer article into the Tunnel one, as Gommu, I believe, referred to it as a sewer. It could also explain the difference between the equalist base and the township, as they are rather different. The township is almost open to the sky. Frui (🌹 • 🐝 • 🐝🐝) 14:53, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

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Pang family and Yum Soon Han family

Delete — Is there any proof that they even exist? All Toph does is mention two families that, for all we know, could have made up right off the top of her head. I checked Nick.com just to be sure, and they don't talk about them; why should we? Before I saw the articles, I honestly did think she just made them up off the top of her head. Even is she didn't, why should we have a page for something so, so, sooooooo minor? Azulazulazula 16:14, July 24, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Per Azula. Truly Ferret (a •) 16:38, July 24, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — agreed, pure speculation --Tree_Climber Bonjour! 00:51, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — The argument that these families do not exist is speculation in and of itself. Though we will never really know if the families actually do exist, there is nothing that was specifically stated that leads to the assumption that the families do not exist. It rests on the belief that Toph was lying, which we can never know. Anyways, families are pretty significant. There aren't many good examples for families, but when we have a similar conversation about a location that is only mentioned once (take Red Sand Island as an example), most people would vote to keep because locations are stand-alone concepts that exist in equal mediums, and cannot be undermined simply because of the amount of times it has been mentioned or its significance. The same holds true for families. SparksFromHades (wall • contribs) 01:19, July 25, 2012 (UTC)SparksFromHades

With Red Sand Island it was almost definitely an in-world place, with both the Red Sands Rabaroos and Bumi's fleet of ships waiting there, whereas with the families we can't be enitirely sure that they are or are not real. The situation actually reminds me of the Kagaroo Island article, which we did wind up deleting seeing as its name was most likely made up. It is speculation to say that the families do not exist, but also speculation to say that they do. For Toph's convenience she may have been more likely to state fake names, seeing as she had no idea who would and wouldn't be inside the event. If she named a noble family who the guards might remember specifically keeping out, it may have been suspicious. Truly Ferret (a •) 15:30, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

If Toph seriously wanted to enter the palace, it is far more likely for her to have used real names. You see, had Toph used fake names, the guards would have been far more likely to dismiss her because anybody can create fake names to enter the palace, whereas real names would have been more convincing because it would signify her knowledge and nobility. SparksFromHades (wall • contribs) 15:41, July 25, 2012 (UTC)SparksFromHades

Delete — Per AAA, we're not for sure that these families exist, and at any rate, I don't think articles are needed for this. Annawantimes (Talk) 15:34, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — No evidence that they existed.  Technology Wizard  Wall  Contribs  17:14, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Per everyone above (that voted delete). Matey Y. (talk • A:TLoM)  20:16, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Like everyone else said, there's no proof they are real. Prince James 14:49, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — It's likely Toph's lying. Acer Indonesia Ask anything about fanon! • TCA:TFF 14:43, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Although I am relatively certain that these families existed (It would not help Toph and Katara get admitted to the party if the pople who were supposedly waiting for her were made up), I believe the page should be deleted since we do not know anything about these families. WEFAang (wall • contribs) 17:53, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

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Windsurfing

Merge — This article should be merged with the Air Nomad Glider article. It's just another use for the glider, it already has its own section on the glider article. Prince James 02:44, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Agreed, we don't need an article for something so small and trivial that could easily be merged with the Glider article. Fire Ferret 01:05, August 2, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Per the above points. SifuHotman90

Merge — Per ATFF. WEFAang (wall • contribs) 20:23, August 2, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — The article has more than enough information, as windsurfing has been seen multiple times. It is not just another use for the glider; it is a mode of transportation that happens to involve the glider. SparksFromHades (wall • contribs) 17:16, August 3, 2012 (UTC)SparksFromHades

It is a mode of transportation that can only be done with the glider. Wind surfing has only been seen once, not "multiple times." Prince James 18:00, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

And the game of soccer can be entirely undermined by the soccer ball itself. SparksFromHades (wall • contribs) 18:05, August 3, 2012 (UTC)SparksFromHades

What point are you trying to make? Regardless, every other use for the glider does not have its own article, and windsurfing should not be the exception. Prince James 18:14, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Windsurfing is a concept that cannot be tied to what parts make it up. In other words, it can't be said that there cannot be an article about surfing on Wikipedia if there is already one about a surfboard. A surfboard is only the object itself; surfing is what it can be used for. The same should hold true for windsurfing. SparksFromHades (wall • contribs) 18:25, August 3, 2012 (UTC)SparksFromHades

Merge — with hand glider, per all.Iceland77 18:18, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Having a page for windsurfing would be like having a page for bloodbending.  Technology Wizard  Wall  Contribs  18:39, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

We do have a page for bloodbending. SparksFromHades (wall • contribs) 18:43, August 3, 2012 (UTC)SparksFromHades

My bad.  Technology Wizard  Wall  Contribs  21:55, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — It's relevant enough to have its own article, and we usually have separate pages for every section in the old Nick.com. I don't think this one should be an exception. Dcasawang1 • wall 19:09, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Per the others.  Technology Wizard  Wall  Contribs  21:55, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — It seems to be a useful page and it has enough content to be a seperate age. --user:techieberry38 (w:c:pretty cure:usertalk:techieberry38)chieberry38hieberry38 23:36, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

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Fruit saleswoman

Delete — I would've deleted it on the spot were it not that there were already 5 comments debating it, so I took it to here. That page is just utterly ridiculous. Yes, we have pages for other minor characters as well, but this one is ever too minor to be called minor. All that is on the page right now it all there can be said about the woman, which comes to a grand total of three sentences with no way to expand unless you start inserting irrelevant fluff. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 17:50, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Page is completely necessary. I don't think there should even be a debate on this when we have a page called apple. This is a minor character that is relevant to the series, and there is no need to get rid of the page. Matey Y. (talk • A:TLoM)  17:53, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

How exactly is this character relevant to the series? How is it necessary? At least for that apple page -of which I absolutely agree with you about it's idiocy- we can fill an actual page. Here you have three sentences and that is it, there is no more possible expansion. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 18:00, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — It does not need to be deleted for any reason. As and encyclopedic wiki, we should be trying to create every character, location, and battle page possible, regardless of the content they have. I say keep it. That one page, even though it has very little content, is an addition to this wiki. --ShocknAwe | Talk ^co (UTC) 17:55, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

There is nothing to be said about this woman. There are three sentences, that is it. What is encyclopedic about that. (btw, could you also create a sandbox for your quote, it is extremely long). Lady Lostris /  SOAP 18:00, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — I don't even know who or what this is referring to, this article is just generally unnecessary.Iceland77 17:57, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — I agree with Lostris. This character is incredibly minor and we know so little about her that an article is not needed. Annawantimes (Talk) 17:58, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — We may as well give this page the award for least text and relevancy. She appears once in the entire series, and when we see her it's for a whopping three-quarters minute. If this page is not the limitation for importance, then we may as well add every single building, person, object, even blade of grass that appears in ATLA to this Wiki. There is no reason to keep this page. SparksFromHades (wall • contribs) 18:02, August 3, 2012 (UTC)SparksFromHades

Delete — Per Lostris. The article is unneeded. Prince James 18:05, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Yeah, there is not really enough info to justify a full article. Katara and Bolin Fanboy Send me a messenger hawk 18:43, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Yeah, there is not really enough information to keep this article. I say keep it on the Occupations though :) IncubatedDucks

Delete — I've seen articles better than this get the boot. KettleMeetPot (wall • contribs) 06:51, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

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Seaport village

Delete — I don't think an article is needed for this, the village appeared for just a few seconds, and we have no other information regarding it. In addition, most of the article is about Katara's plan to save Haru and the prison rig. Annawantimes (Talk) 01:32, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — I don't really see a need to delete it. It has enough information for it to remain an article. There are many places in the Avatar World that have only been seen/heard of once, and they have their own articles as well.  Technology Wizard  Wall  Contribs  01:41, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — This article was once together with the Mining village article, which had much inaccurate information regarding what information it had on this article. This village was supposedly the same as that village and held the prison rig, which was incorrect. That said, I do think we should keep them separate, as they are two different locations and we have pages for locations even more trivial. Take Han Tui, Whaletail Island, or Red Sand Island as examples. Those locations were only mentioned, while this one was seen as well. SparksFromHades (wall • contribs) 01:41, August 5, 2012 (UTC)SparksFromHades

This article actually was never part of the mining village article – and about the mentioned locations, this is a bit different, we know some relevant information about them, but for this city, we know practically nothing other than the fact that Team Avatar visited. Annawantimes (Talk) 04:05, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

It was part of the mining village article. The "locations" section used to have the description for the prison written instead of Haru's home, and the village was described on multiple parts of the article as being directly on the Mo Ce Sea, which is incorrect. Furthermore, the entire "history" section was basically just a full retelling of the episode "Imprisoned", despite the fact that only a small portion of the episode took place in the village. The articles were seperated into two not long ago because of this. SparksFromHades (wall • contribs) 14:16, August 14, 2012 (UTC)SparksFromHades

The seaport village does not include the prison rig, they are two separate locations; so it was never part of the mining village page. The information about the prison rig that is currently on the seaport village article does not have a place there, the prison is not part of the village. Annawantimes (Talk) 14:25, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

You are mistaken; have another look at the edit history for the mining village article. SparksFromHades (wall • contribs) 16:38, August 14, 2012 (UTC)SparksFromHades

Delete — I don't remember this village.HenryJh 98 (talk • Avatar:The Sole Woodbender • Fanon Detective!) 20:32, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

It's from "Imprisoned", and appears in the scene where Katara is taken to the prison rig. SparksFromHades (wall • contribs) 16:34, August 11, 2012 (UTC)SparksFromHades

Keep — as per Technology Wizard and SparksFromHades's reasoning.ThebigOfan 19:12, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — To me, the description makes it sound identical to mining village. This makes me feel it is a duplicate page. Sparks believes they are two separate cities, so I'd be interested in hearing why...I only know of the mining village and the prison rig for that episode. What have I missed? Vulmen (talk • EoK) 02:57, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — They are two separate cities. See these images: mining village and seaport village. Vulmen (talk • EoK) 03:00, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

So that's total confirmation about that bit? SparksFromHades (wall • contribs) 14:05, August 14, 2012 (UTC)SparksFromHades

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All "Quotes" Pages

From the War Room (Because Thai and ARG suggested I move it):

Delete — Although I don't think this will get much support, I am proposing that we remove the quotes pages.

The main purpose is to show some humorous moments from episodes, and occasionally deep and meaningful ones. However, is that really necessary? (Encyclopedically speaking) We already have the transcript pages where the content can be found, so its not like we need the pages for that reason. If someone needed to find the quotes, couldn't they just look on the transcript pages? (Which also tend to be more accurate?)

What is the deciding factor of the quotes that join the page anyways? What some people find funny others may not, same thing with the deep ones. If we were to include what everyone thought, we may as well paste the whole episode on the quotes. What I'm saying is that the quotes pages are subjective rather than objective, also not a good thing to have in an encyclopedia.

Ultimately, I find that these quotes pages are not very good additions to the wiki, and I think that they should be removed. Thoughts? Fire Ferret 01:11, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — I totally, wholeheartedly agree with you. Funny, I wanted to propose this a few weeks ago, but totally forgot by the time I got home. -.- Anyways, yeah. Down with the quotes. Azulazulazula 01:22, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

Keep —And I, wholeheartedly disagree with you. There's something about the quotes that appeals to fans and users on this site. I have been thinking lately about wheather it could get... interesting, especially with Korra quotes, where everyone just adds one they liked, but so far, that has never been an issue. We need to keep them. O.W.L.(My Blog) 17:38, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — I agree with ATFF and A³. It is enough that we have quotes on article pages, as well as transcripts. Matey Y. (talk • A:TLoM)  21:18, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — I absolutely agree with this. In going over and fixing some of them recently, I realized what a pain they really are. In some cases, someone had simply posted (often incorrectly) a five- or ten-minute scene from an episode. I particularly remember deleting most of Iroh's story about Zuko's banishment in "The Storm" from the Quotes (Book One: Water) page, leaving only the beginning part. That led me to wonder "Is this really the most important part of that quote? What determines the importance of a quote, anyways? Copy/pasting half an episode is clearly wrong, but the the rules on what is right are so fuzzy." Having those pages is so subjective and based on opinion, so it's hardly encyclopedic. The comments on those pages, too, hardly contribute any worthwhile discussion. Most of them are people simply repeating their favorite quotes, perhaps with a "LAWL" or "I luv Zuko!" thrown in. That being said, I am in favor of deleting all Quotes pages on the basis of this and what others have already expressed. Monkeyfeathers94 (wall • contribs) 21:39, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

Delete —I agree with deleting them per what has been said. ― Thailog 22:47, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — I think it's fine. They're not causing us any trouble. If users want to find significant or funny quotes from an episode, this is the place. And as said, things could get interesting with Legend of Korra quotes. BlackMonkey ^{Talk - Fire & Ice} 00:23, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — I agree, these are not necessary and are just kept around for amusement's sake. Vulmen (talk • EoK) 02:11, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

What's wrong with that? We need some pages that are fun. Seriously, the quote pages are some of my favorite pages. I feel very strongly about their being kept. :( O.W.L.(My Blog) 03:19, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Pages for humor purposes are not akin to an encyclopedic entry. Vulmen (talk • EoK) 03:20, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

It is not only for humor. O.W.L.(My Blog) 05:02, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — As per OWL and BlackMonkey. ThebigOfan 03:23, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — I agree with OWL and BlackMonkey. The "quotes" page is where is where people look for quotes to use or remember. It's not a piece of trash. It should be kept. Even is this is an encycolpedic wesite, it doesn't mean we should strip people of this kind of fun info. -Kat 10:18 a.m., August 10, 2012 (Pacific)

However, we aren't stripping people of fun info. The quotes can still be found on the transcript pages just fine and particularly meaningful ones head each episode page. If we were to delete these, we would be removing no information from the wiki that wasn't superfluous. Monkeyfeathers94 (wall • contribs) 17:28, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — I think We should keep it. AvatarKorraWaterbender- I'm the Avatar! You gotta deal with it! 18:38, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — I personally don't see any reason for them to be deleted. Though the transcripts are great, you can't really find specific quotes on them without scrolling through and scrutinizing the entire page for them. And sure, some of them do contain unnecessary and sometimes downright stupid stuff, but that can be worked out and cleaned up through good maintenance on the community's part. Anyways, what's the big problem with keeping them around? Agreed, they do add mostly to the amusement factor of the wiki, but they serve as a way to conveniently and easily find quotes for the series. And who doesn't love to quote the series? I do. SukitheNinja 00:41, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, transcrpit pages are great for the entire episode, but it's horrible trying to find a quote in those. Personally, I don't use transcript pages unlesss I have to, and dont' nessecarily like them either... O.W.L.(My Blog) 15:36, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Per ATFF. Dcasawang1 • wall 16:00, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

To the people voting keep: (edit conflict) But just because they are fun or helpful doesn't mean they should be kept. This is an encyclopedia. Let's say somebody wrote a page on every jerky thing Mako said. The page is very convenient were somebody trying to prove why they didn't like Mako, but the page is also opinionated, and most of the information can be found elsewhere if you look. This is an encyclopedia, not a place for opinionated pages with information found elsewhere. Fire Ferret 16:04, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — What constitutes a "good quote" is subjective, so it's impossible to maintain this pages in a factual and encyclopedic way. If a user loves a particular quote so much, they can put it on their userpage. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message me • Read my fanon) 16:25, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Support the deletion of all quote pages, because as above, they just aren't needed. Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem 16:27, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Per MonkeyFeathers94. I didn't even know these pages existed, and I do believe they're rendered almost useless when we have transcripts. SparksFromHades (wall • contribs) 16:37, August 11, 2012 (UTC)SparksFromHades

ATFF: I disagree. The pages aren't meant to show an individual character's quotes, jerky or not, but are meant to show what many would think of as the best quotes of that episode.

I do agree, however, that there are many quotes in there that are unneeded and extraneous. So if it's really that big of a problem, I propose we hold a vote on which quotes are memorable enough to be kept and those which are to unimportant to keep around.SukitheNinja 17:14, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

That wasn't my point, I was using that as an example, saying it was about opinion and information that could be drawn out of other things, like the quotes page (and that page would be deleted). The fact is, different people will disagree about the quotes. And if we make a vote now, it would take forever, there would be a disagreements. Not to mention that when we leave the wiki (it will happen at some point), there will be other users stuck with our decisions, who may want to change it. The fact is, the wiki would be better without the pages. Fire Ferret 17:25, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

That's like saying the wiki would be better without certain users! Everything would have been fine if you wouldn't have brought this up in the first place! You guys are really going to take away a group of pages that people love? The quotes are what we love about Avatar- it's what they said that we could relate to, or we thought was funny, or even that made us think about things that are important! Personally, I hate transcripts, but I'm not going to say we should get rid of them, because we shouldn't. They're helpful, and I use them when I need to. Besides, this is hypocritical, I've seen almost all of you vote to keep pages that are actually kind of stupid. Like we actually need a page for the feathered hat man. I'm sorry for being rude, if that's how it came out, but I feel very strongly about this. I do acknowledge that we don't really need quote pages for the comics or shorts, but for the seasons, yes, they need to stay! O.W.L.(My Blog) 17:47, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

I don't understand why the wiki would be so much better without them. They aren't harmful, and they aren't pointless. The information on them is not extraneous or redundant, and they serve a purpose to help users easily find their favorite quotes. Therefore they should be kept. SukitheNinja 18:10, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

I understand that you aren't stripping people of fun and I know this is an encyclopedic website, however deleting the "quotes page" would be removing all user's access to quotes. I know that there are plenty of quotes in transcripts, but there are tricky to find. Keeping the page will allow people to search quotes simplier. Therefore, I say we keep it.- Kat 10:57 a.m., August 11, 2012 (Pacific)

Keep — Per OWL. Sokka's Sword --> Heeeere's Hawky! 18:40, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Per OWL and Kat --Humble (wall • contribs) 19:00, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — In my mind there is no real reason to get rid of them. I think users would prefer to read these quotes instead of the transcripts. This is Slash, mission complete! 22:23, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — per OWL and Agent Slash --Korra's iPhone I support Zutara!! 01:58, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Per the reasoning above. Annawantimes (Talk) 02:56, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Per Vulmen. WEFAang

Delete — This is an encyclopedia. People need to remember that. A Light Shining in the Darkness - ^Talk 04:55, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — I chare the opinion of SukitheNinja. Yu Yan Archer ^(Talk) 05:27, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Can someone provide an example of such a page? Jackiie ^(Talk) 19:27, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Quotes (Book One: Water)|Here]], Quotes (Book Two: Earth)|here]], and Quotes (Book Three: Fire)|here]] are all examples of these pages. Fire Ferret 19:35, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Then. - Jackiie ^(Talk) 20:22, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Per OWL. --Aritiane (wall • contribs) 19:31, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Per OWL. Eat Special K! • Message Wall • My Fanon 03:54, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — I didn't even know these pages existed. Prince James 15:04, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Per OWL. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! 07:45, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Per ARG – TechFilmer🍍 23:26, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

Just saying, in the "Super Deformed Shorts" category, we have everything said, as if it were a transcript but on the quote page. Should somebody transfer that to transcript space, were this page to be deleted, or anyways because its more like a transcript than quotes? Fire Ferret 16:33, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

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Template:Comment

Delete — I just don't see a point in it. If someone wants to comment on a forum or any other type of discussion, then they can simply use a colon or asterisk.  Technology Wizard  Wall  Contribs  17:34, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Besideds the fact it's unneded, it's also barely ever used. O.W.L.(My Blog) 19:36, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — The first time I've ever seen one. It's hardly ever used as per OWL. SparksFromHades (wall • contribs) 20:27, August 13, 2012 (UTC)SparksFromHades

Keep — Even though it's rarely used I think it should stay. ThebigOfan 14:27, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — This is actually the first time I've heard of this, showing just how little it is used or needed, and looking at it now, it does not serve much of a point. The Ultimate Waterbender 14:41, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

Just a general comment: the template was created on August 12, which is likely why no one has heard of it before or has ever used it before its creation two days ago. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 16:45, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Its new, I say we give it a few more days/weeks before killing it off completely. Fire Ferret 14:57, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Even if it's new, that fact is, it's unneded. Even Lostris didn't use it when she made a comment. It's unneded. O.W.L.(My Blog) 17:21, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

Per OWL. I was pondering whether to mark it for deletion until a couple weeks or not, but it is unneeded, no questions asked. There is absolutely no need to keep it.  Technology Wizard  Wall  Contribs  03:02, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Huh; I guess if anybody chose to "indent" and make a "comment" reply to my reason for deletion, they'd have to use {{Comment}} to do it. (not 'Vote comment' I guess. lol) :P Jokes aside; a comment discussion is simply that. An open input/discussion able to be replied to. This isn't necessary. Vulmen (talk • EoK) 03:05, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

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Image

This image should be deleted as it has nothing to do with Avatar and is only being used on a userpage. Frui (🌹 • 🐝 • 🐝🐝) 03:55, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

Not the place for this. Use the Board:Admin noticeboard. The image was deleted. Vulmen (talk • EoK) 03:57, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

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Komodo sausage

Merge — I think that the Komodo sausage page should be merged with the Komodo rhino page. Most of the information on the sausage page is already on the page for the rhino, both are categorized as foods, and I think the Komodo sausage page is small enough to justify it. If we add the picture of the bowl of sausages to the Komodo rhino's "Place in the world of Avatar" section, we can also add the extra bits of information about food preparation on the sausage page to that section that aren't there already. Komodo sausage can then become a redirect. The loss of one page won't really compromise or leave out any information as long as everything is merged sourced properly. I think the merger could be good for both pages.DancePowderer Talk 03:10, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Food articles are stand-alone concepts that cannot be constrained or restricted by their description and source (or lack thereof). Despite however many times it has been mentioned or how important it is, it always exists in equal mediums, and that is something that can't be changed. A komodo sausage is no more or less relevant than, say, an apple (just an example). Therefore, if we merged this page through the reasoning given by DancePowderer, we may as well merge the apples page, or any other page pertaining to food because it all has a source. Obviously, we aren't going to do that, so this is a big no. SparksFromHades (wall • contribs) 14:32, August 14, 2012 (UTC)SparksFromHades

Keep — Per SparksFromHades; the page for komodo sausage should be allowed to have its own separate article as any other food article. The Ultimate Waterbender 14:41, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — As per SparksFromHades. ThebigOfan 16:45, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — its a food. SukitheNinja 20:02, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — per above Miss Momo 23:31, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

But the rhino is already categorized as a food, the sausage is just way of preparing it.DancePowderer Talk 23:42, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — I agree with DancePowderer Acer Indonesia Ask anything about fanon! • 03:17, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Per Sparksfromhades Scienceboy0 (wall • contribs) 20:07, August 20, 2012 (UTC)

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Earth Nation councilman

Delete — We know so little about this man, and he has had such little screentime that a page for him seems unnecessary. HAMMEROFTHØR (wall) • 21:13, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Per HammerOfThor.

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Skyscraper

Delete — To say it short: and the point is... ? We do not have a general page about "house" or "barn" or whatever other building that played no role of importance at all. Every other building page we have was at least of some importance or visited notably during the series, but this is just a page saying "skyscrapers. You know, tall, building, lots of people can live in them... Not really notable, but TLoK has them!" Lady Lostris /  SOAP 11:20, August 23, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Per Lostris. What importance does this building even have?108.3.151.74 11:23, August 23, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Agreed. It is too short, and anything notable can be added to Republic City. HAMMEROFTHØR (wall) • 11:26, August 23, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Removal of a non-essential and irrelevant article. Fine by me! Vulmen (talk • EoK) 02:24, August 24, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — I agree. After looking up the article, it's just a page for skyscrapers that were never given any specific names. I don't find any significance in that. Humble 02:28, August 24, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Skyscrapers are a significant, stand-alone, and key innovation in the Avatarverse. They define Republic City quite well. Sparks • From • Hades 15:52, August 24, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — I say that we merge this with the Republic City article.TheBigO Fan Be the leaf 15:57, August 24, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Per Lostris. Prince James 20:10, August 24, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Per Lady Lostris. Yu Yan Archer ^(Talk) 06:11, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Per Lady. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message me • Read my fanon) 06:32, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Nothing much more to add. I guess I like orange? KettleMeetPot • wall 06:39, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

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Gala building

Merge — The gala building and City Hall are one and the same, no need to have a separate page for a decorated City Hall. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 21:16, August 25, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — I never knew it was the same building, but anyways there's a decent amount of information on the article. I think this should be merged with the City Hall article.TheBigO Fan Be the leaf 21:23, August 25, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Per thebigofan Humble 21:25, August 25, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Per Lostris and Thebigofan. Something about the gala can be added to the history section on the City Hall article. ^^" Annawantimes (Talk) 21:28, August 25, 2012 (UTC)

Wait, when I wrote this page I didn't realize this was part of the City Hall. How do you all know? It looks like a separate structure to me. Sparks • From • Hades 17:55, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — The building is remarkably similar to city hall but they are not one in the same. I'm sure upon closer examination you will see the structural differences. Avatar Corin 00:26, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

Actually it is city hall, I think the council page mentioned that.TheBigO Fan Be the leaf 00:29, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

Council page didn't say anything about it pertaining to location. I'm still waiting for actual proof that this is City Hall. Sparks • From • Hades 00:55, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

It has the same interior and exterior design as city hall, I don't think you need any more proof than that.TheBigO Fan Be the leaf 01:00, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

After closely examining the pictures, I must say I'm a bit skeptical about voting either way. As per Corin, they look remarkably similar when looked at from a distance, but upon closer comparision I saw multiple glaring inconsistencies in both interior and exterior designs. If they are both the same, then Bryke did a pretty poor job at animating I must say. Sparks • From • Hades 01:10, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

Sparks hits it on the head the so called Gala building is similar in design yet has large differences in its appearance. Avatar Corin 02:24, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

Can you explain the differences please?TheBigO Fan Be the leaf 02:27, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

1) The structure on top of dome of City hall is a tower capped in gold, the one on the Gala building sits directly on top of the dome.

2) The dome of City hall is much larger and over hangs from it's supporting structure. The Gala's sits right on top of the tower and does not overhang.

3) The roof of City hall is gold. Whereas, the roof of the gala building is green(what appears to be wood.)

4)Look at the placement of the 'chords' on both buildings.(the things that look like scaffolding. I don't know what to call them. The Gala's align with the corners of the Parthenon shaped section. City Hall's are above it.

5) City Hall has vertical striations that stretch the tower supporting the dome. The Gala building has no striation.Avatar Corin 02:45, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

Now, why all those differences are no differences at all:

1) The angle of taken on both images differs from each other. Since it's a layered building, the angle is very important to make it look like something it atop, behind, or next to something else.

2) Again, the angle is different. It only looks like that because the image of the "gala building" is taking from up close, whereas the image of the Cit Hall you compared it with is further off, making it look different, though all the shapes are the same.

3) The "gala building" image is taken at night without a spotlight on the roof building, so it's natural that it appears darker -marble always has that effect.

4) I don't really know what you are referring to, but this cropped image looks incredibly a lot like this one. Yes, the larger building in the first image is not present in the second image, but that has more to do with the placement of the "image taker" than with the building not being there as the front buildings are exactly the same -except for the decorations and the obvious lighting.

5) See point 4.

I also like to point out that due to the fact that City Hall was never shown up close in daylight as it was when the gala occurred there, it is indeed possible that some of the finer details of the building weren't worked out for the daylight image for the simple reason that it was not needed as you wouldn't be able to see that from afar anyway. The striking resemblance of both buildings, inside and out, however, should be enough to proof that they are the same building, and we should not fall over minor details as "a square was shown here, but not there" as that is all due to the details that are seldom added in far off overview images. Lady Lostris /  SOAP 05:54, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Per all that jazz above. Yu Yan Archer ^(Talk) 06:15, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Lady makes points so sound that I'd say we have to consider it the same building, even if it wasn't explicitly stated. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message me • Read my fanon) 06:18, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

Merge — Hmm... Yes. Per ARG. KettleMeetPot • wall 06:43, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

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Template:Needscitations

I don't think this wiki is large enough to merit a need for this template. Instead, we can use "Template:Source needed" for articles in need of citations, like we already do. GhostUser (wall • contribs) 22:21, August 25, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Needs citations template is used when an article has little to no citations and references. I think a page would look kind of messy with source added to every paragraph or sentence that needs a source.TheBigO Fan Be the leaf 22:29, August 25, 2012 (UTC)

The trouble is finding such a page. By my count, the Sources Needed template is only used on the Trivia sections for four articles. Needscitations, a grand total of zip. GhostUser (wall • contribs) 23:14, August 25, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — @GhostUser: Right now, it's been a couple months since our last big information surge, the season finale. When the Promise Part 3 comes out, and later season 2 of LoK, we'll have a lot of new articles, many of which may need this template.TheLoKnessmonster (wall • contribs) 00:28, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — We like to warn people when articles are in need of higher quality. This is like saying that the needs help or under construction templates are unnecessary because of Category:Needs help. Its best to have both so other users know when and where help is needed, and can provide them if they are needed, because they may not know about the categories/source needed template. Fire Ferret 01:03, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — I understand that the template having zero pages using it is an argument to delete it. However, this template is acceptable to have no uses for the time being, as Ferret and others explained above. Vulmen (talk • EoK) 02:42, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — It will have more use later, and it's more clean and visible than the alternative Source needed template. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message me • Read my fanon) 06:25, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Per ATFF and other keep votes above. Annawantimes (Talk) 22:37, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

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