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Unidentified Bearded Airbender [show]CLOSEDedit
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Delete Delete — This page shouldn't exist. We don't know this character's name or anything about their lore. There are characters we have pictures of and names for who we don't have articles for, there is no point to this page existing and anything on it is covered by the Opening Sequence article. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 21:41, September 21, 2018 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Anything listed on this page is purely logical. As such, it does not warrant a page Tono555(VSTF) Korra-chao2 21:44, September 21, 2018 (UTC)

Keep Keep — We know he was important enough to be featured in the opening sequence instead of any of the other, named airbenders we know of. He had a beard, as well. He also mastered a whirlwind move, and none of this was mentioned on the Opening Sequence article. --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 21:46, September 21, 2018 (UTC)

Delete Delete — There is not enough content to warrant this page. Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 21:58, September 21, 2018 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Literally every bit of relevant information available can be reduced to a trivia sentence in related articles. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:08, September 21, 2018 (UTC)

Unnamed Fire Avatar [show]CLOSEDedit
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Delete Delete — This character isn't named and hasn't played any role at all in the show, all we know about him is he had the ability to lavabend which does not warrant a page at all. Any notes about his lavabending ability can already be surmised on the Avatar page, and if we keep this page up we might as well make pages for all of the other stock Avatar designs. If his lore gets brought up in the comics the page can be recreated but I don't think this page is relevant. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 18:37, September 26, 2018 (UTC)

Keep Keep I am not dead-set on keeping it, but I do want to point out that this particular character was also, supposedly, present in The Rift (the last paragraph in the section on Aang's life). Given that it provides some insight into the Avatar's prior lives, and specifically their connection to them, I am happy to keep this page. Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 18:43, September 26, 2018 (UTC)

Yes he does appear, but for a single panel along with the same Earth Kingdom Avatar before him who we've seen in statues in Avatar temples and in other Avatar line-ups but who doesn't have a page here. the only reason we have the article about him is because he showed up and lavabended once, if more information becomes available we can create a page about him then, but the page isn't really serving a purpose on the wiki. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 18:49, September 26, 2018 (UTC)
Ahh, the current wording on his page makes him seem much more important than the panel reveals, then. As said, I'm not dead-set on keeping the page xD Frui (🌹🐝🐝🐝) 18:54, September 26, 2018 (UTC)

Keep Keep — Due to those few seconds this Avatar "showed up in," he became more important than any other stock design of the other Avatars because he was revealed to be the first known person to lavabend. Another thing to note is that this particular Avatar disrupted the cycle of "male" "female" "male" "female" judging by his facial features. All in all, these reasons may be too trivial for most, but these are my thoughts on the matter. Also, while we're on the topic of this Avatar specifically, if the article does survive this discussion, perhaps it should be renamed to Unnamed firebending Avatar or Unnamed Fire Nation Avatar or something similar. --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 03:00, September 29, 2018 (UTC)

Keep Keep — I think this page has been here long enough (dating back to 2007) and has enough information on it for him to have a page. We have shorter pages around here, so I'll stick with keep. Tono555(VSTF) Korra-chao2 03:40, September 29, 2018 (UTC)

I disagree that precedent or the existence of shorter articles makes the page necessary, (also I'm confused about the supposed gender pattern because Aang and Roku are of the same gender) but I do agree that the page should be renamed; I strongly dislike having the word "unnamed" in a character's title, perhaps simply Fire Nation Avatar would work. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 04:17, September 29, 2018 (UTC)
I don't feel strong either way about keeping or deleting, but if a rename is the way to go, I suggest forgoing having the word Avatar in the title, and simply go with the more specific "Yangchen's predecessor". Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 04:27, September 29, 2018 (UTC)
Lol I did not explain that correctly. I meant that every four Avatars from each of the four nations, their genders are supposedly swapped. From what we know currently, it would seem this particular Avatar was the only one who disrupted that cycle. However, as I take a look at the image again, I realize that the discussion I took this from was likely misguided, as it was Avatar Roku who disrupted the cycle. --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 16:23, September 29, 2018 (UTC)

Keep Keep — I think this page has enough content to warrant being kept. He was admittedly never explored in much detail, but the regularity of his appearances in the Avatar lineup leans me towards keeping over deleting the article. I would also like to add that if the article is kept, any name change would have to go through the War Room so I would suggest keeping the discussion here focused on whether the article should be deleted, and discuss a name change later on. HAMMEROFTHØR (wall) • 10:44, September 29, 2018 (UTC)

If appearing regularly was a compelling reason to keep it, feathered hat man's article would still be around. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:57, September 29, 2018 (UTC)
It is well established that the deletion of each article is considered separately and not based on what was or wasn't deleted before. But to clarify my point, the Fire Avatar has appeared a number of times and there is enough content based on these appearances to, in my mind, justify keeping the page. My vote to keep is based on the quantity of content and not the number of appearances. HAMMEROFTHØR (wall) • 18:25, September 29, 2018 (UTC)

Delete Delete — I don't feel particularly strongly about this, but FF brought up some valid points that as far as I can tell have not been refuted in any of the following replies. We've also seen the bearded Earth Kingdom Avatar before him multiple times, but we deleted his article because we had next to zero info on him. The fact that it's been on the wiki for so long is essentially just saying its fine because it's gotten away with being there without anyone bringing it up, which is a bad precedent for the wiki. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 02:01, September 30, 2018 (UTC)

This thread's brought up a few good points. --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 03:26, September 30, 2018 (UTC)
They chose to keep his article because he's the only person ever seen bending lava but now we know that's a skill that any skilled/trained earthbender could do, so the entire concept of it as having a prominent role on the narrative of the series or the structure of the universe no longer is relevant. He has no pertinent roles, abilities, or effect on the narrative. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 04:28, September 30, 2018 (UTC)
Giant wolf [show]CLOSEDedit
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Delete Delete — While this article may have once been necessary, as we knew little of the spirit world, with Korra and the comics further fleshing it out, I think it is pointless to have an article about a spirit which one can glimpse in about a second of a single episode. We don't have articles for other spirits that appear but have no lines, like the many spirits visible in The Legend of Korra, and we lack articles for spirits who play a role in the plot like the spirit that attacks Korra in the first episode of Book 2. I think it is odd to have an exception for this particular character. The one noteworthy thing about it, that the Wolf spirit spirit may have been based on its design, can easily be put on the Wolf spirit's page. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 01:21, October 8, 2018 (UTC)

Delete Delete — I agree. This spirit didn't do anything particularly relevant other than walk in the background. Tono555(VSTF) Korra-chao2 02:02, October 8, 2018 (UTC)

Romance [show]CLOSEDedit
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Delete Delete — This article should be deleted because it does not add any utility to the wiki. Its sole use prior to my recent edit was to list relationships of characters, which we have a category page that offers the same information. Ziryerx Tui and La sprite (wallcontribs) 01:21, January 24, 2019 (UTC)

Delete Delete — Per Ziryerx. Lady Lostris Wiki.png (talkHotN) 12:42, January 24, 2019 (UTC)

Fade-Red Devils [hide]OPEN: 23/09/19 edit
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Delete Delete — My reasoning for proposing the deletion of this page is very simply that I feel it is too short. All relevant information on the group has been added, and thus there is no real scope for expanding it any more to a reasonable length. Most of the information that is contained in the article could be added to either the Fifth Nation or Tagaka articles as appropriate. HAMMEROFTHØR (wall) • 12:46, July 6, 2019 (UTC)

Keep Keep — As the author of the article, I still disagree. While the article is undoubtedly short, it is of sufficient length and remains useful. Sure, the information could probably be found in other articles, but at the same time I do not think that the article is so short that its existence is completely unwarranted; otherwise I would not have written it ;-). DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 21:44, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
22nd Earth King [hide]OPEN: 03/01/20 edit
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NOTE: This deletion is named for the 22nd Earth King article, but it also includes 40th Earth King since the arguments for both are the same.

Delete Delete — My reasoning for why both these articles should be deleted is very simple; they are too short in length and there is not enough information to warrant separate articles. All relevant information can be included on the Earth monarch page, as it was previously. I do not see why separate articles are required. HAMMEROFTHØR (wall) • 15:51, January 1, 2020 (UTC)

Delete Delete — per HoT. Lady Lostris Wiki.png (talkHotN) 00:37, January 3, 2020 (UTC)

Ryong [hide]OPEN: 03/01/20 edit
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Merge Merge — This article is currently very short, and from what I remember of the book there is not much more that could be added to expand it. I would like to suggest, therefore, that we create an Earth Kingdom sages article and merge Ryong with the other sages that have short articles: Buro, Neliao, Pan, and Saiyuk. The article would then include information on each individual and also general information on the EK sages. HAMMEROFTHØR (wall) • 19:41, January 1, 2020 (UTC)

Merge Merge — per HoT. Lady Lostris Wiki.png (talkHotN) 00:39, January 3, 2020 (UTC)

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