All posts by PyroGothNerd

<p>EVERY TIME I think this thing is dead. EVERY SINGLE FREAKING TIME!!!! </p><p>Ugh, that does it, I'm unfollowing this darn thing. If you guys want to continue this debate, go ahead, I'm finally sick of it. </p>

<div class="quote"><i>Weltall8000 wrote:
Is it really particularly "diverse" if 90% are of the same ethnic group?</i></div>
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I know, right?  People misuse the word "diversity" all the time </p>

<p>Oy, this is getting intense. </p>

Sometimes I wonder why I ever joined this conversation...

<div class="quote"><i>TheAvatarNate wrote:
<div class="quote"> <p>Johny316 wrote: They have white skin, and some have dark skin, that cannot be denied. And to everyone else asking about black people. If there are light skinned people and dark skinned people, there are most likely black skinned people. </p> </i></div>
<p>so what? I don't care what they are. They aren't any race that is real. they are not from our world. </p><p>Take the average water tribe person. Brown Tan skin, Blue Eyes, and Brown Hair. That combination does not exist in a "pure bred" person in real life. you say they are like inuits? inuits have jet black hair. not brown like katara or sokka etc. </p><p>they are fictional races. </p><p>however. if we were to portray them in live action. most of them should be Asian because all the cultures are Asian based. so it would look very silly otherwise. </p> </div> <p>(Cough) DANGITLASTAIRBENDERMOVIE
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<div class="quote"><i>Johny316 wrote:
<div class="quote">PyroGothNerd wrote:
<div class="quote">Johny316 wrote:
<div class="quote">TheAvatarNate wrote:
they are cartoons existing in a fictional universe. <p>they aren't white or asian. BECAUSE ASIA AND EUROPE DO NOT EXIST IN THE AVATAR WORLD. </p> </i></div>
They have white skin, and some have dark skin, that cannot be denied. And to everyone else asking about black people. If there are light skinned people and dark skinned people, there are most likely black skinned people.</div>(Smart alec levels rising)
<p>Well, technically they would be brown...Maybe caramel colored, or deep mocha... </p> </div>If you have ever seen a real african from deep africa. They are literally black. </div> <p>I know, I have met a couple. I was just being a smart-alec.
</p><p>In middle school, everyone treated "black" like the n-word, so I kind of joked about it. </p>

<div class="quote"><i>Johny316 wrote:
<div class="quote">TheAvatarNate wrote:
they are cartoons existing in a fictional universe. <p>they aren't white or asian. BECAUSE ASIA AND EUROPE DO NOT EXIST IN THE AVATAR WORLD. </p> </i></div>
They have white skin, and some have dark skin, that cannot be denied. And to everyone else asking about black people. If there are light skinned people and dark skinned people, there are most likely black skinned people. </div> <p>(Smart alec levels rising)
</p><p>Well, technically they would be brown...Maybe caramel colored, or deep mocha... </p>

<p>Hey! Why was the image of Zuko with huge eyes removed?!? I was using that to make a point!!!! </p>

<div class="quote"><i>Hasdi wrote:
<div class="quote">PyroGothNerd wrote:
the older Airbenders, such as Gyatso did have narrower eyes. Almost all the kids in the show have larger eyes, while many of the adults have smaller eyes. This is because traditionally in artwork and animation, children are portrayed as having larger eyes compared to adults.</i></div>
<figure class="article-thumb tright show-info-icon" style="width: 250px"> <figcaption> </figcaption></figure>Does this mean elder Aang is supposed to look more... Asian? <span title=":wtf:"></span> </div> <p>
It's a bit hard to tell in that picture, since, like I mentioned earlier, older people are given narrower eyes. </p>

<p>Kids would be pretty confused if Aang's eyes looked completely different on the poster. </p><p>Also, not everyone in asian art was depicted as having thin eyes </p><p>I always thought he looked a little like Sun Wukong (except...human. And not okay with killing.) </p> <figure class="article-thumb tright show-info-icon" style="width: 180px"> <figcaption> </figcaption></figure>Also, the older Airbenders, such as Gyatso did have narrower eyes. <p>Almost all the kids in the show have larger eyes, while many of the adults have smaller eyes. </p><p>This is because traditionally in artwork and animation, children are portrayed as having larger eyes compared to adults. </p><p>Large eyes are associated with innocence. </p><p>Narrower eyes are assoiciated with being older (think old people with squinty eyes), or being less innocent. </p><p>Think of all that Zuko went through. He wouldn't exactly look the part if he had large eyes with lots of little eye shines in them. </p><p>Also, Azula and Ty Lee are about the same age, but Ty Lee is innocent and friendly, and thus has larger eyes than Azula, who is manipulative and..many times...cruel. </p> <figure class="article-thumb tright show-info-icon" style="width: 180px"> <figcaption> </figcaption></figure>But notice, when Azula was still a child, even her eyes were drawn wide

<div class="quote"><i>MysticNerd wrote:
<div class="quote">PyroGothNerd wrote:
<div class="quote">Hasdi wrote:
Ganguro is so 1990. Bihaku has since taken over, with its <i>skin whitening</i> products. Get with the times, mon.</i></div>

But things aren't really that..... <p>Iroh: Don't say it......they'll kill you for that pun..... </p><p>....BLACK AND WHITE </p><p>Da dum tsh </p><p>Iroh: (Sigh) -_-' </p><p>
</p><p>Seriously, though, the 90's isn't that long ago, and a lot of old trends are still around today and/or coming back </p> </div>Iroh would love that pun. I think he likes puns like me. </div> <p>
I was waiting for someone to acknowledge that pun </p>

<div class="quote"><i>Hasdi wrote:
Ganguro is so 1990. Bihaku has since taken over, with its <i>skin whitening</i> products. Get with the times, mon.</i></div>
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But things aren't really that..... </p><p>Iroh: Don't say it......they'll kill you for that pun..... </p><p>....BLACK AND WHITE </p><p>Da dum tsh </p><p>Iroh: (Sigh) -_-' </p><p>
</p><p>Seriously, though, the 90's isn't that long ago, and a lot of old trends are still around today and/or coming back </p>

<div class="quote"><i>Reimeille wrote:
Ganguro girls intentionally tans themselves, though, so it's not natural. I'd imagine that in the Avatar universe that tanning to that extent either doesn't exist or is very new.</i></div>
<p>I know!
I was saying in response to the other person saying that pale is more desirable in Japan. </p>

<div class="quote"><i>Reimeille wrote:
<div class="quote">Klainatta wrote:
<div class="quote">Johny316 wrote:
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<p>Omg. OK this must be a huge joke that is not even funny. </p><p>ALL characters in ATLA and LOK are Asians. </p><p>Don't bring your white supremacy idea over here because it feels so disrespectful towards the series.  </p><p>I'm sure you are saying that they are white because they have golden eyes. Just because the characters have bright colors as their eye color, that doesn't mean they are not Asian. If anything, that is just some worldbuilding...green for earthbenders and blue for waterbenders...you know it's a little fun. </p><p>And geez, Japanese are known for their pale skin...I've never seen a Japanese shown as brown in the media (sure they must have some over their country but generally they are as white as you can get) <.< </p><p>but NO, they are NOT WHITE. </p>

• Also airbenders in Wan's time had several different skin colors, including black and brown.

</div>> Implying Asia exists in the Avatar universe. <p>Sometimes I think people need to accept it for what it is and realise that this world is entirely fictional. </p><p>Also no you really need to go to Japan. There are as many darker ones as they are lighter ones. You only see the light ones in foreign media for the same reason you mostly see whites in media. It's more "attractive" and "desirable", and society is forcibly trying to make it 'normal'. Not to mention alot of young Japanese use alot of products to lighten their skin for fashion (mainly girls); their skin often isn't normally isn't that way. Especially Japanese from the countrysides because they don't use those products and also because they are outside alot more. </p><p>I've been to Japan and trust me, it'll really shatter that notion that "everyone is pale". </p> </div> <p>What about Ganguro girls?
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<div class="quote"><i>Klainatta wrote:
<div class="quote">Johny316 wrote:
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<p>Omg. OK this must be a huge joke that is not even funny. </p><p>ALL characters in ATLA and LOK are Asians. </p><p>Don't bring your white supremacy idea over here because it feels so disrespectful towards the series.  </p><p>I'm sure you are saying that they are white because they have golden eyes. Just because the characters have bright colors as their eye color, that doesn't mean they are not Asian. If anything, that is just some worldbuilding...green for earthbenders and blue for waterbenders...you know it's a little fun. </p><p>And geez, Japanese are known for their pale skin...I've never seen a Japanese shown as brown in the media (sure they must have some over their country but generally they are as white as you can get) <.< </p><p>but NO, they are NOT WHITE. </p>

• Also airbenders in Wan's time had several different skin colors, including black and brown.

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FINALLY!!! SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT A JAPANESE PERSON LOOKS LIKE!!! Seriously, every single Japanese person I know is paler than me, and I'm freaking pale. </p>

<div class="quote"><i>BobLogical wrote:
I think you may want to reevaluate your narrow-minded worldview.</i></div>
<p>Well I'll be darned... Did they do that, or did someone else do that and then try to pin it on them?
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<div class="quote"><i>BobLogical wrote:
Remember that embarrassing Photoshop where they tried to take him out of the picture, but left his entire leg in there randomly?</i></div>
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Somehow, I feel like you're just spouting bullcrap...especially after that argument earlier where you're only evidence was making fun of me for providing evidence </p>

<div class="quote"><i>Hasdi wrote:
Obama's mother (who passed away in Nov 1995) was white, not just his maternal grandparents. Obama's father is black. Technically, he would be mixed race but overall, he looks black. He also has an Asian sister. Mind-blowing, right? <span title=":wtf:"></span> <center> <p>https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2858/12329386915_e81970edf9.jpg </p> </center> </i></div>
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Yet he never talks about any of them. </p>

<div class="quote"><i>Thebridge14 wrote:
Obamas of mixed race though hes not fully black</i></div>
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That is true. His Grandmother is white, which they mentioned several times during his first campaign. We haven't heard about her since then. </p>

<div class="quote"><i>Hasdi wrote:
<div class="quote">TheAvatarNate wrote:
in live action should be portrayed by the people from the cultures they are based on, otherwise it looks kind of silly (like in the movie).</i></div>
It may be "silly" but it's not racist. OTOH, requiring actors to be of the same race portrayed by the cultures they are based on is inherently racist and illegal.[1] </div> <p>
That's a good point, and explains a lot of casting choices </p>