All posts by Skipper8888

<p>Agree with Korra. I prefer this franchise to end ( except for the comics ). I actually wouldn't like to see sequel of LOK either. I just think that they will eventually run out of ideas and ruin this awesome series. </p>

<p>I like your list, but I think that Korra will be the one without husband/wife, not Asami.  </p>

<div class="quote"><i>Ninja72 wrote:
<div class="quote"> <p>Skipper8888 wrote: </p> <div class="quote">Ninja72 wrote:
<div class="quote"> <p>Skipper8888 wrote: He could easily be 36. i don't really see the reason why it seems so unrealistic to some people. The way people look at certain age is different and depends on your genetics and lifestyle. I think Iroh could easily be 36 in book I. Just look at Toph and Aang at 40 and Pema at 35. Well, at least, he clearly is older than characters in their 20s. </p> </i></div>
But the source of him being 36 is a joke.</div>Well, I'm not familiar with material you're talking about. Therefore, based on what I've read on this threat, i would question whether his age is joke or Asami's age, or maybe situation itself? Anyway, since we don't have any other information, it is safe to assume that he indeed is 36. </div>Look the first reply . Deist Zealot explained it. </div> <p>Ah, yeah, of course I saw it before I commented on this threat. As I said I'm making my suggestion based on what I read on this threat. What I meant was that I have never seen Blu-ray commentary. So, my opinion remains the same, because I think that in spite of this scene being joke, it not necessaruly means that Iroh's age is joke as well.  </p>

<div class="quote"><i>Ninja72 wrote:
<div class="quote"> <p>Skipper8888 wrote: He could easily be 36. i don't really see the reason why it seems so unrealistic to some people. The way people look at certain age is different and depends on your genetics and lifestyle. I think Iroh could easily be 36 in book I. Just look at Toph and Aang at 40 and Pema at 35. Well, at least, he clearly is older than characters in their 20s. </p> </i></div>
But the source of him being 36 is a joke. </div> <p>Well, I'm not familiar with material you're talking about. Therefore, based on what I've read on this threat, i would question whether his age is joke or Asami's age, or maybe situation itself? Anyway, since we don't have any other information, it is safe to assume that he indeed is 36. </p>

<p>He could easily be 36. i don't really see the reason why it seems so unrealistic to some people. The way people look at certain age is different and depends on your genetics and lifestyle. I think Iroh could easily be 36 in book I. Just look at Toph and Aang at 40 and Pema at 35. Well, at least, he clearly is older than characters in their 20s. </p>

<p>That is a bit confusing but I agree with idea that Avatars choose how to look when they interact witch "present time Avatar". But your question is: why? Hm.. Maybe this is all about how they feel, how they see themselves. Aang was always wise and mature but also he had always clear view on the world and was ready to accept new ideas. He was joyful person. So, at heart, he never was a kid but also he never was an old man. Maybe 40s is the best age for him? When his inner and outer are corresponding ( bad English, but I guess, you got my point )? What about Roku? I dunno, same explanation maybe. We never really met him as a person. Maybe showing Roku at old age is good way for demonstrating his wisdom and how experienced he is. Kyoshi? Well, she was phenomenon. Maybe she even used to look like that at 230? But remember, she was strong, cold woman. Old Kyoshi would not show us her inner strength. Wan was a prodigy. Young Wan shows us that he was first at what he had done, or the first Avatar. </p>

<p>As Neo Bahamut said, Avatar is unique because everything is being done very well. Personally for me the most attractive factors are: </p><p>1.Animation. It is neither anime nor cartoon if you ask me. It is something in the middle or mix of both. That makes animation more "realistic" ( well, more than anime or cartoon at least ). Animation is especially realistic in LOK. But of course there are other animations with even more realistic art. But in Avatar, they not only pay attention to human figures but also nature, etc. </p><p>2.Moral of the story and complexity of some characters. Avatar characters are not one dimensional and also each character has her/his own personality. Even villains are complex and have their own motives and sometimes they have good or understandable points for doing what is considered act against society. We can they this about Amon, Tarrlok Zaheer, etc. Even Korra isn't perfect what makes it even more interesting to watch LOK. And moral of the story of course. Aang didn't kill Ozai in the finale of the series. If he had killed him, he would have gone against his own ideology but he chose the peaceful way to end the war. And Korra had been through a lot but she also has chosen right path and has developed a lot. </p><p>3.Avatar is the show that doesn't sugarcoat the world. There is violence, torture, suicide and the dark side of politics but still, it is not our world. Also rapid cultural and technological changes after war makes it more interesting to think about differences and similarities between our worlds. </p><p>4.ATLA and LOK are completely different stories, with different characters, different historical period and completely different themes but it is still connected what makes watching LOK more dramatic IMO. </p><p>And such female leading character as Korra of course. There are not many tv shows that contain chinese martial art and are about female character at the same time. And Korra is especially interesting character ( well, FOR ME ). Not just some scared chick. She was ambitious teenager who used to look with enthusiasm at her new life and being Avatar but she was manipulated, tortured. And everything what she had done, was followed by consequences that changed her and made her grow stronger. </p>

<p>It never failed for me and we have plenty of discussions about that. I think that LOK always had haters. But there also were people who really liked LOK ( and there still are people like that ). But as time went by, hating LOK has became more and more popular. Haters used to write posts and scream about how much they hate LOK and why it is 10000 times worse than ATLA. But of course some people just didn't find it interesting any more. At least, it is my opinion. </p>

<p>Yes, of course they had regents, etc but there are more examples and that doesn't change the fact that people were more mature back then. You can't deny the fact that mentality and maturity level of people is different in every historic period. </p><p>And again, Aang was monk. He meant to be wise and mature. He was brought up by teachers, not parents. And we must take a note of that if we want to talk about his maturity level and also if we want to understand why he didn't really suffer an emotional and psychic traumas. Of course he was devastated when he found out that his whole socety was murdered but his spirituality and ability to stay calm was his strength. But I'm not saying that he wasn't just a kid. Of course he was!  It is fascinating that he defeated the Fire Lord at the age of 12. </p><p>But still, let's think about this: he barely was involved in political affairs. Most of the time Gaang just were wandering the world. Yes, in each season finale, he had to face real difficulties but that's all. While Korra always was in the middle of political struggles and major conflicts. </p><p>This conversation may last forever because it's subjective. </p><p>However, we can't deny that Korra had more reasons for being devastated. Most of LOK haters, think that it is her weakness and pointless for plot. I already explained why ( I think that ) it mustn't be considered as weakness.  </p><p>I have read interesting review about connection between Korra and Amon ( and nah, you may relax. It's not shipping. Ew..). It's called "The Three Waterbenders" and I think that it conatains good explanation for finale or importance of Korra's devastation. But again, it's subjective and you may think that it's just some bullshit.   </p>

<div class="quote"><i>Neo Bahamut wrote:
Skipper: <p>Korra was older than Aang, was that a typo? </p> </i></div>
<p>Yes, she was older. But again, that doesn't matter because they lived in different times. In medieval times, girls used to marry at the age of 13, Murad IV ascended to the throne at the age of 11, Tutankhamun was only 9 years old when he became pharaoh, Mary was only 6 years old when she became queen of Scots,<span style="font-size:18px;line-height:24px;"> </span>Ptolemy XIII  came to power at the age of 12 ( I may be mistaken ).<span style="color:rgb(16,16,16);font-family:'OpenSans',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:18px;line-height:28.8px;"> </span>But those were different times. Now, people are considered kids until their early 20s. Well, at least most of modern day "princes" and "princesses" are not mature epough to rule kingdoms and empires.  </p><p>Personally, I think, that it is important part of LOK. We must understand how hard it is to be Avatar in the modern world. People have president, they finally developed global political system, etc. Now Korra's position is symbolic. I think, if Aang was in Korra's shoes, he would be OK with it. He wanted to be normal while Korra wanted to be a hero.  </p><p>Also, in edittion, I want to say that Aang was never traumatized mentally, spiritually. Maybe only when he found out that Gyatso was killed off. But Korra was tortured, manipulated and broken in every season. Still she never gave up ( for example, Amon did give up. He couldn't face failure ). </p>

<p>Well, that's not really hard question. First of all everything is subjective and we have right to like and hate whatever we want. But still, BOTH series are epic. </p><p>So, why do so many people hate LOK? I have my own opinion about that. First of all, as someone already mentioned, it's simply nostalgia. And also people just couldn't accept the fact that Aang, Sokka and other beloved characters are no longer alive and ( as Katara said that ) it's time for new generation to take on the responsibility of keeping peace and balance in the world. People usually can't accept changes. </p><p>My second explanation is that people just have to be hateful towards something ( it's our nature, what can I say? ). Like shipping wars. It is tv show wars.  like wars between Star Trek: TOS and Star Trek: TNG fans, like wars between Game Of Thrones and A Song of Ice and Fire fans, and so on.  </p><p>I grew up watching this ATLA. It was part of my childhood and it really is great and epic show. In all honesty, at the first time, I didn't know how to feel about new series ( and yes, I almost started hating it even before I saw it ). But eventually, it has become my favorite tv show and now I like it even more than ATLA. You can't deny that LOK is for more mature audience and it contains darker and realistic themes. There is violence, poverty, and unkindness as well as nobility, community, etc. Also personally I think that characters are more interesting and have developed a lot. Korra had lot of failures, she was broken, desperate but isn't this more realistic? Aang was brilliant character. He was wise and kind monk, chosen one, call him whatever you want, you can call him messiah if you want. And at the age of 12, he defeated Fire Lord! Yeah, but he hasn't developed as character and person. Aang in a very last episode is the same person he was in a very first episode ( that's my opinion ). But Korra has changed a lot. She started as ambitious, enthusiastic about being "chosen one", teenager girl who faced darkness of real world and politics. Amon took her bending away, Vaatu separated her and Raava and then cut her connection to her past lifetimes permanently, Zaheer tortured, poisoned, crippled her leaving her physically and mentally broken. Then Tenzin and the president were basically saying "you're no longer needed". But she didn't give up and continued fighting. Personally for me she is inspirational. She isn't perfect but her imperfection is what I like about her. Yes, she was 17 ( younger than Aang ) but she lived in different time. Do you think that teenagers of today have same mentality as teenagers in 18th century ( there were rapid changes within 70 years )?  </p><p>And also villains in LOK aren't just "bad guys". They have their motivations, ideology and philosophy. They have actual reasons to leave behind the morals ( not just, I'm the Fire Lord, I want to burn whole Earth Kingdom to the ground! Mahahaha! ). Sometimes you even feel sorry for them. The only villains in ATLA that I was interested in were Sozin and Azula. </p><p>In conclusion, I would say that ATLA and LOK are both great shows equally. And we can't compare them ( at least IMO ) because they're completely different. You may agree or disagree with me because it's subjective theme ( oh, and sorry for my horrible English ).  </p>

<p>I've always thought that my personality is most similar to Korra's personality ( and this is the reason why she is my no.1 favorite character ). So, if character represented me, it would be more annoying version of Korra. </p><p>If the question was "what character would you create for Avatar universe", it would be character that lived during The Hundred Year War. She would be cruel, narcistic, selfish and bitchy Fire Nation noblewoman but with complex personality and unpredictable decisions. She was sure that her nation was superior and often sneered at weak ones. She could not care less about people ( from other nations ) for years but after she discovered that her mother was half airbender ( yeah, somehow ), her overconfidence shattered and after ideological struggle, her worldwied and attitude towards people from other nations changed and she created secret organization against her father ( the governor of small city in Earth Kingdom taken by Fire Nation ). </p>

<p>Well, as people said it before, the answer might be simple: there wasn't full moon and she wasn't able to use this skill becuase bloodbending is probably highest level of waterbending ( so, Katara needed energy that waterbenders get during full moon ).  </p><p>But I don't think that it is the only reason. I think, she wouldn't have used bloodbending in any way. Katara didn't just dislike that ability, she hated it and was against bloodbending. She thought that using bloodbending was unfair, terrible, violent and maybe even imoral act. She used it only twice in her life ( in the most extreme situations. When she had no other choice or was full of hatred and anger ). If she had used bloodbending, she would have gone against her ideology and moral codes. </p>

<p>Well, first of all, I think that those "love situations" were suitable for the story. In ALTA there were times of war, so they didn't have time for anything but the action. And also Aang was only 12 years old and it isn't strange that there were not really "romantic situations" in his life. ( Yes, he lived in medieval times and things were different back then but in Avatar World he was still considered a kid ). </p><p>In the other hand, Korra is a teenager who lives in peacetime and it's normal and more realistic that she's not focused only on her duties, etc.  </p><p>And the fact that she has partner doesn't mean that she can't be strong female character any more. Man can be strong and independent while having partner but woman can't or what? Lin always was a strong woman and she was in relationship with Tenzin. Toph also was a strong woman and also she had partner and two children. Zuko's daughter is Fire Lord and has a child. I can continue.... And also Korra and Asami aren't even married. They both may become single once again at some point of their lives.  </p><p>I doubt that showrunners wanted "to please LGBT community". It was just part of the story. Their relationship developed and makes sense IMO.  </p>

<p>As you said Zuko would've died withouth Katara's help but Katara was also the reason why Zuko was injured ( because he protected her ). If Katara had not been present, Zuko would have won the duel.  </p>

<p>I think, she'll have high status and position. She is still technically wife of former fire lord and of course mother of current fire lord, so obviously, her position will be influential. She'll have respect, power and influence over Zuko. But it depends on her decision. Remember that she has "a new family". She may decide to not to interfere in the political affairs and issues. We'll see what happens in S&S. </p>

<p>There were lot of unexpected moments in LOK. For me, release of new Avatar series was surprise intself. But of course Korrasami scene was one of most unexpected and surprising moments on television. Everyone ( I'm pretty sure that even people who shipped them ) were shocked by Korrasami being canon. Sometimes showrunners make ridiculous decisions in order to shock audience but in Avatar, almost every "controversial" decision was good and suitable for story and characters.  </p><p>Korra not being able to connect with her past lives, rvealing of Avatar origin, Amon being brother of Tarrlok and his decision to commit suicide are quite surprising moments as well. </p><p>In ATLA there were few surprising moments. Jet's death, The Lion Turtle meeting with Aang, Zuko's decision to save Appa and later changes in his personality, Iroh's body transformation were surprising personally for me. </p>

<p>I would like to see more of Korra and Asami relationship but I hope they aren't going to do something absurd or stupid like break up or wedding ( well, I mean they're still too young ). It would be good, if they just show us how their relationship develop and don't do anything radical. </p><p>I also would like to see team Korra ressembled once more and reunion of old team. I want to know what happened to Azula after last comics and I would like to see her in Korra's comics, if she's still alive.  </p>

<p>Well, it is not easy to answer this kind of question because we don't know how would living in different times change their personalities. Let's not forget that they live in completely different historical periods and their mentality and level of maturity depends on this fact.  </p><p>Yes, it took 17 years for Korra to master all elements but there wasn't need for her to hurry. She lives in the time of peace while Aang lived during the world war. His time was limited and he was the only hope for people. So, he had to take responsibilities and grow faster. I think, Korra is unique Avatar. She has discovered her abilities by herself at a very young age but she was born in the time when Avatar wasn't considered as "god-like" creature any more. Her position is symbolic and ideological, her rights are limited by law ( she can't do whatever she wants to do ). And there was no one who would look at her as hero or "the last hope". </p><p>So, I think Korra definitely would have defeated Ozay even faster than Aang did but I'm not so confident about what would have happened if she had been born in Sozin's times. It depends on situation and people who would surround her. ( Sorry for my English ) </p>

<p>Korra has had very bad luck, but we don't really know about other Avatars, do we? For young Avatar, she has been through a lot of suffering,but she has developed skills and learnt from her mistakes. Also she is surrounded by people who care about her and would never abandon her. Some would say that Aang was stronger Avatar but I can't agree about this at all. They faced completely different difficulties and were born in different time periods.  </p><p>So, I think that Korra will die in battle, in her 80s maybe, when she will not be as strong as she once was. </p>