@OmegAlfa2002 I never said he had a good reason. I said he had an "okay" reason. removing her bending would be an example but it would, as he said, make a martyr of her and the nations would crack down on amon before he has enough power to fight back. he literally explained this.

And no, he can't catch her again because he got kicked out of a window.

Once again, you're missing the fact that he was acting on instinct. he didn't have time to think. I don't care how smart you are, if you're dying and have to act in a moment's notice to live, you will act, watchers or not. and you cannot create a bubble of air underwater. you need to surface to do that. -- and you are still assuming he can think. amon is ACTING ON INSTINCT. HE WAS DROWNING AND DEEP UNDERWATER. HIS FIRST PRIORITY IS SURVIVING.

Maybe they didn't see the problem, but you're blaming korra for it. if it is a problem with all avatars, make it clear that its an all avatar problem, not just a korra problem. and even that argument isn't true because most avatars we've seen weren't carried much by their status. Roku and yangchen were probably the biggest benefactors.

Book three does not open with a spirit attack on the city. korra tried to remove the vines and the vines retaliated, nearly destroying a building. a single building. this only happens when they are provoked and it never happens again until book 4 where it happens once more. but only once more.

Kuvira developing spirit weapons is not a spirit vs human squabble, kuvira wasn't even mining the spirit vines, only the vines from the swamp.

the gangster was only possessed by the spirit because he attacked them. and hilariously this was the only actual spirit on human violence in 4 years and the entire world. -- in four years only one incident in the entire world and it was caused after the spirits were provoked by objectively bad people.

the spirit incident cannot be considered "her causing" since other people caused it and it only happened once. how can it be getting worse? the same thing did not happen during the old era. spirits just ruled the earth, very different here where spirits and humans share a world. you're argument falls apart under any sort of inspection.

Thats like saying everything that happens in smoke and shadow, the rift, the promise and imbalance aang's fault because his actions had consequences. and the worst part is, those conflicts were more tangible and frequent than any "spirit attacks"

• You're ignoring the things korra did have a part in like saving the air nation twice, defeating amon and destabilizing his movement. defeating hundun of her own merits. bringing down kuvira. defeating vaatu twice. etc.

• What long term danger? Is just explained how the only long term danger is a single event that is solved very quickly and for the most part is completely imaginary

• She did. she nearly trapped him in the tree of time. the fact that you're ignoring that just tells me you're trying to paint a narrative of your own making rather than being honest. Vaatu's goal wasn't to open the portals, it was to destroy humanity and cover the earth with darkness. korra stopped his goal by vanquishing him for 10,000 years. yeah sure he will come back, in one hundred centuries. he was gonna come back regardless, at least korra bought them more time than human history (in our world) has existed

• Its not true as I have explained.

Lets do it.

• Yes all of them. even you admitted it so you can't go back on it. korra doesn't need to have an impact on her companions to have impact on the world and story.

• Dumb answer

• Then hold atla to the same standard, not korra alone which is what you're doing.

You are quite literally warping actual events and facts to make them korra's fault. it is the biggest form of intellectual dishonesty I've seen on here and that's saying something.

And even still, korra CANNOT be the worst avatar because 1) she brought, without a doubt, more good and prosperity in the world than any avatar before her. 10,000 years of light and peace is better than peace in any one era.

2) she has never put her own selfish needs or wants above being the avatar. korra has only ever tried to be a good avatar, which every other avatar besides wan falls short of.

There are objectively at least two other avatars who are worse than her and its not even a contest. 3 if we're being real and 4 if we're being honest. thats 4/6 other avatars she is better than, putting her in the top three. be real man

Bastion2.0, good emphasis on the fact that Amon was acting on instinct. I've been practicing martial arts for over 27 years now and I have to tell you, in a real fight when your life is on the line, you don't have the time to think through a proper plan. You have to operate purely on what your body knows from procedural memory. It's why I sometimes made dumb choices like overextending my punches rather than using a claw hand strike before going straight into a throw.

Honestly, I'd give up trying to talk sense into Omega at this point. They aren't going to listen and they have no interest in doing anything other than senselessly slandering Korra and just being a hater.

This has gotten so far off-topic that I'm ready to get an admin involved.

Oh im just gonna simplify the responses. simple, one or two sentence answers to any baseless argument that comes

Honestly, and from my point of view, we can't say that Avatar was the worst of all, especially with these two:

Kuruk sacrificed himself so Yangchen's legacy would prevail, which ruined his own legacy as the Avatar. When we were told this in the first Kyoshi book, they made him look irresponsible and the one who would be considered the worst Avatar. It wasn't until the second book that we get the truth about what Kuruk did.

Szeto, besides the fact that we don't know who he faced, what problems he saw he had to solve, or even how the actions of the Avatar before Szeto influenced him, we don't know the background of what the situation was like in the era in which he lived. The same thing happened with Yangchen, Kuruk, and Kyoshi until the novels arrived.

I share the opinion of @UnchainedDragon25 inedDragon25, that each Avatar has their flaws and the problems in the world were consequences of the actions of the previous Avatar, not because they did a terrible job as an Avatar, but for the simple fact that every action has a consequence.

I WILL HAVE THIS POST LOCKED. GO FIGHT ABOUT KORRA SOMEWHERE ELSE, THIS WAS ABOUT KURUK V. SZETO

As has been noted a few times, this post had gone off topic from the original point. Please get back to the relevant discussion (Kuruk vs. Szeto), any other discussions should be had elsewhere. If it happens again, this will be locked.

HammerOfThor, thank you.

AngelJ3421C, thank you. Every action has a cost, such as the amount of resources it takes to achieve the action. When one prioritizes a particular goal, they lose the opportunity to fulfill another goal. This is called opportunity cost.

1. Wan prioritized world peace and balance on a grand scale. As such, it began the slow decline of humanity's spiritual awareness and respect for the spirits themselves.

2. Szeto prioritized the Fire Nation's political and economic stability. The cost was his ability to focus on the rest of the world.

3. Yangchen prioritized humanity when conflicts with the spirits arose. This resulted in the increase of dark spirits during Kuruk's time.

4. Kuruk prioritized spiritual balance by hunting down dark spirits. His lifespan was reduced and the world destabilized due to his short tenure as the Avatar being the price the world paid.

5. Kyoshi prioritized the use force to keep the peace. This resulted in an Earth Kingdom that fell apart and regressed back into corruption the minute she died and wasn't policing her nation.

6. Roku prioritized diplomacy during a time of cold war over raw might to enforce his policies. The consequence was the 100-Year War and the genocide of the Air Nomads at the hands of Fire Lord Sozin and his forces.

Every Avatar is flawed. This is why maintaining balance is the ongoing duty of the Avatar. Peace and balance are not an endgame, but a practice. Some people are more skilled than others at it, but even the Avatar is not omniscient, and thus subject to the flaws of humanity. Every Avatar has shown their strengths, their weaknesses, their virtues, and their vices.

The only incarnational constant of the Avatar seems to be the same good-natured, lopsided grin.

Why do you think that way? What Kuruk and Szeto did wrong?