@Integer115 When he hung her over the cliff he was defending himself and I think it was reactionary not premeditated.

The impossibility of implementing the Phoenix plan in the form of the destruction of an entire continent in a couple of hours is a fact.

It's not just Zuko's ability to train Aang, it's a fact.

Iroh's military company after the campaign to the dragons is a fact.

The destruction of countless lives in the siege of Ba Sing Se is a fact.

The persistence of Zuko's assholness is a fact.

The Republican city was written off from New York is a fact.

The Azula's health became worse after being in a madhousel is a fact.

And It's a fact that all of her friends that she pulled out of the that psychiatric hospital thought this place was terible.

So only Zuko fans are rambling here.

General B.H. Hanging a person over a cliff to explain to her that she ruined your childhood with her good grades has nothing to do with self-defense. In fact, he didn't have to fight her at all because the letter literally meant nothing. Because he came to power not through the inheritance of the throne, but through a coup and sat on the throne of bayonets of enemy fighters. So he could return it to Azula himself.

You actually have a point, but I feel like this just equates to plot holes, not Zuko being bad.

Iroh learned from the Dragons after the siege of Ba Sing Se and the death of his son.

That's not true. Zuko said his uncle killed the last dragon a long time ago, not six years. That was when he made his cover story for the dragons.

Okay, well even so, Iroh eventually became good. It was even obvious how much of a good person Iroh was before Ba Sing Se.

As is typical, if the facts contradict Zuko's image of good boy, then it's worse for the facts.

"General Iroh and his army led a siege on the great Earth Kingdom capital for 600 days. After losing countless men in the siege, and with no end to the battle in sight, General Iroh ordered his men to retreat, an act deemed cowardly by Iroh’s brother, Fire Lord Ozai."

Yes, Iroh is a real good man who destroyed countless lives in a notoriously hopeless military enterprise and them just fled.

@Integer115 You seem to be under the impression that good vs. evil is as simple as black and white, but it's not. People are complicated and are capable of doing both good and bad without necessarily being fully condemned to either side. What matters is why they do it. Actions are not done outside of context. A good person can do bar things, and vice versa. Again, it's about why they do it. Zuko's motivation has always been love. Iroh's motivation used to be power, but he saw past the lies of the Fire Nation and became motivated to love.

If you recognize Zuko as complex, then your attempt to make him definitely good no longer works.

If a character does nasty things 95% of the time and outperforms certain antagonists in this. That is a very serious call.

Zuko's motivations were personal desires, chief among which was the throne.