Lol, trademark doesn't equal history.

A banal question, did Ursa deliberately wake up Zuko before she left (as it was in the show) or did he accidentally wake up (as in the comic)? Or are you ready for doublethink just to ignore the rewriting of the canon?

The comics rewrite the original story, so no solid conclusions can be made. That's the problem.

Zuko just wanted to be loved. Only Azula really worked for this, because for her it was important, but for Zuko, who already had love from Ursa and Iroh, it was a banal whim.

Zuko was not considered weak. He was considered hysterical and an irresponsible disgrace to the ruling military aristocracy.

Ursa left but Iroh stayed, and like Usra, he forgave his nephew absolutely everything.

In the comics, Zuko is also shown disgustingly - a crybaby and a sneak, who is terribly afraid of his 3-year-old sister. Is this really serious?

All his life before Agni Kai, Zuko lived under his mother's skirt and Iroh's patronage. And the ONLY time he had to face the consequences of his actions turned into a tragedy of a lifetime. Damn, the rest of the characters also had enough tragedies, and not from their fault. But only Zuko turned it into a fetish that he cherished all three seasons and used as a universal means of self-justification.

Stop forgetting Iroh. Although he forgot about himself that one time when his help was really needed. Lol, if the old general found himself a replacement so why Iroh doesn't jump out to replace Zuko? However, Iroh refused to fight Ozai even during the comet. Symptomatic.

Zuko doesn't care about love. He received tons of love from Ursa and Iroh. So it was a matter of course for him. He responded to Iroh's love by treating him like shit. Is this your loving child?

Zuko wants to put his ass on the throne he really loves. It's even a little scary if you think about it.

Zuko is a rare scumbag. No one forced him, to trying to burn Aang for refusing to kill Ozai for examplei. It's just that this guy's character is such that he perceives any disagreement as a reason for destructive hatred.

Once again. Unlike Zuko, Azula did not attempt to burn her subordinates due to her bad mood in contrast to Zuko. Although she was with Ozam much longer and closer. So it's not just about Ozai.

Even if you do think Zuko is a bad person, you can argue with results.

He stopped his father and sister from destroying the Earth Kingdom during Sozin's Comet, he taught the Avatar Firebending, heck, even the last two Dragons deemed him worthy of the truth of Firebending.

He may have betrayed his uncle, but that was a moment of weakness. He made up for his mistakes. Zuko helped create Republic City and bring an era of peace. He tried helping Azula through her insanity by putting her in a mental hospital. He is a good person. Stop letting your biases cloud your vision.

And what was Ozai going to destroy with help of 12 airships in a few hours that he had while the comet was in the sky? With the Earth Kingdom no longer in existence and all the important cities being occupied by the Fire Nation soldiers and administration?

Aang could be taught by literally any firebender from the White Lotus.

The dragons also deemed worthy Iroh who used their teachings to continue conquering the Earth Kingdom and destroy countless lives in the siege of Ba Sing Se. So the recognition of dragons has nothing to do with humanistic morality. Especially considering their carnivorous nature.

Lol, those moments of weakness are 95% of what he does for all three seasons of the show. Singling out a unique mixed nation instead of facilitating the unification of existing nations is a mistake. However, if you go to the end, then the literal New York from the superhero setting in the East Asian fantasy setting is a mistake.

According to the comics, he locked a psychologically traumatized person in a madhouse for a year (yes, mental illness and psychological trauma are different things.). During this year, Azula's health, which is completely unsurprising, has become much worse! And yes, how he helped her when he treated her like an animal or hanging her over the cliff or even forgot about her existence immediately after she ran away. In fact, Azula's condition only improved when she got out of the asylum and escaped from Zuko, and this is very revealing. However, in general, all the patients of this Bedlam were horrified by the prison in there.

It's funny that none of the fans could answer my argument. It all comes down to total ignorance of facts and abstractions of the level he is good because he is good. So the fan bias towards Zuko is perhaps the main reason for my activity.

Now your just rambling at this point. I feel it’s best for this post to be locked.

@Integer115 When he hung her over the cliff he was defending himself and I think it was reactionary not premeditated.

The impossibility of implementing the Phoenix plan in the form of the destruction of an entire continent in a couple of hours is a fact.

It's not just Zuko's ability to train Aang, it's a fact.

Iroh's military company after the campaign to the dragons is a fact.

The destruction of countless lives in the siege of Ba Sing Se is a fact.

The persistence of Zuko's assholness is a fact.

The Republican city was written off from New York is a fact.

The Azula's health became worse after being in a madhousel is a fact.

And It's a fact that all of her friends that she pulled out of the that psychiatric hospital thought this place was terible.

So only Zuko fans are rambling here.

General B.H. Hanging a person over a cliff to explain to her that she ruined your childhood with her good grades has nothing to do with self-defense. In fact, he didn't have to fight her at all because the letter literally meant nothing. Because he came to power not through the inheritance of the throne, but through a coup and sat on the throne of bayonets of enemy fighters. So he could return it to Azula himself.

You actually have a point, but I feel like this just equates to plot holes, not Zuko being bad.

Iroh learned from the Dragons after the siege of Ba Sing Se and the death of his son.

That's not true. Zuko said his uncle killed the last dragon a long time ago, not six years. That was when he made his cover story for the dragons.