<div class="quote"><i>Neo Bahamut wrote:
Waterbenders actually do tend to be more rigid when controlling ice. A great example is Tonraq, who uses ice as a weapon a <i>lot</i> & fights much more like an earthbender than a waterbender. It's also seen on display [here], where Desna & Eska use a lot of powerful stomping maneuvers, usually typical of earthbending, in their fight with Ming-Hua.</i></div>
<p>Ohh, I never really noticed that. Also, the link you sent didn't work, could you try again? </p>

<p>That is because I forgot to actually paste the URL in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq8fYezWa-0 </p>

<p>Maybe it's not that moves change when the bent material changes, but the other way round? It opens a lot of doors when we consider that maybe the spectrum of possoble bending types is different when the movement is a different one. For example, in this case, I assume that steambending would require more spiral, airbending like moves. Maybe the same with sandbending or dustbending? You'd just have to move different to bend different things, wouldn't that be an interesting thought? </p>

<p>While I agree with your general statement, you also can't apply individual bending characteristics as overarching techniques. Earthbenders are described as being rigid, sturdy, and hard to move. Therefore it makes sense that you would talk about how different an earthbender would have to bend in order to lavabend, using uncharacteristic bending. However, Waterbending is naturally fluid and is all about change and flowing with energy. Waterbenders naturally deal well with change and flow on desipte blockages. So while ice may require some differences in movements, I wouldn't necessarily say a waterbender would need to be more eartherbender-like for ice, because the bending style lends itself more to fluidity, both with phase changes of water and environmental changes.  </p>

<div class="quote"><i>MeelosLeaf422 wrote:
While I agree with your general statement, you also can't apply individual bending characteristics as overarching techniques. Earthbenders are described as being rigid, sturdy, and hard to move. Therefore it makes sense that you would talk about how different an earthbender would have to bend in order to lavabend, using uncharacteristic bending. However, Waterbending is naturally fluid and is all about change and flowing with energy. Waterbenders naturally deal well with change and flow on desipte blockages. So while ice may require some differences in movements, I wouldn't necessarily say a waterbender would need to be more eartherbender-like for ice, because the bending style lends itself more to fluidity, both with phase changes of water and environmental changes. </i></div>
<p>Oh, that makes a lot of sense, thanks! </p>

<p>Icebending? Cool! This makes me can imagine some waterbenders can suddenly make the icy spikes out from </p><p>the ground or can make shields, swords and spears out of them as well! This theory is interesting and amazing! </p>

<p>What "theory" are you talking about? Waterbenders use ice frequently. </p><p>Also, making complex weapons out of ice is a bad idea, because ice is brittle. </p>

<p>I think waterbenders can increase the durability of ice, but, yeah, metal weapons are much better. </p>

<p>Probably, since the properties of ice change depending on how it freezes & what the conditions were like, but even so, a small volume of ice is limited in what it can do. Glaciers can carve up huge swaths of land because there's just so much ice. </p><p>To give a bit more detailed commentary: </p><p>>If you've ever handled the stuff, you've noticed that ice is light. Anything that relies mainly on weight to do damage, like a hammer, isn't such a great idea. </p><p>>A sword's weakest point is the handle, so it'd be best to cut out the middle man & make something like the katar Tonraq uses against Zaheer. You'll also noticed that he used it mainly to stab. Since ice gets brittle when it's thin, it doesn't make such a great blade, although the advantage a waterbender has is that they could reform it. </p><p>>Ditto pretty much anything that relies on having small, elaborately shaped parts, like a sickle or something. If you want to get any mileage out of them at all, you'll want to thicken them. But the main use of something like that is trapping the opponent's limbs or weapons, & a better strategy would be using a water whip & then freezing it. </p><p>>A shield would have to be pretty damn thick to be worth a damn, & wouldn't stand up well to anything to something like a mace. It would also be weaker around the edges, which is a problem, since a shield's general goal is to glance blows off to the side. </p><p>>Ever noticed that an icicle becomes easier to break the longer it gets? If you want a spear, your best bet is to put a small ice blade on a shaft of something not ice, & have it be really thick to anchor it well. Unless you only plan to use it for a single attack or throw. </p>

<div class="quote"><i>Neo Bahamut wrote:
Probably, since the properties of ice change depending on how it freezes & what the conditions were like, but even so, a small volume of ice is limited in what it can do. Glaciers can carve up huge swaths of land because there's just so much ice. <p>To give a bit more detailed commentary: </p><p>>If you've ever handled the stuff, you've noticed that ice is light. Anything that relies mainly on weight to do damage, like a hammer, isn't such a great idea. </p><p>>A sword's weakest point is the handle, so it'd be best to cut out the middle man & make something like the katar Tonraq uses against Zaheer. You'll also noticed that he used it mainly to stab. Since ice gets brittle when it's thin, it doesn't make such a great blade, although the advantage a waterbender has is that they could reform it. </p><p>>Ditto pretty much anything that relies on having small, elaborately shaped parts, like a sickle or something. If you want to get any mileage out of them at all, you'll want to thicken them. But the main use of something like that is trapping the opponent's limbs or weapons, & a better strategy would be using a water whip & then freezing it. </p><p>>A shield would have to be pretty damn thick to be worth a damn, & wouldn't stand up well to anything to something like a mace. It would also be weaker around the edges, which is a problem, since a shield's general goal is to glance blows off to the side. </p><p>>Ever noticed that an icicle becomes easier to break the longer it gets? If you want a spear, your best bet is to put a small ice blade on a shaft of something not ice, & have it be really thick to anchor it well. Unless you only plan to use it for a single attack or throw. </p> </i></div>
<p>no </p>