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ALL POSTSAzula Maybe Lying About How She Got "Rid" Of Her Mental Illness
<p>I found it really odd that Azula's mental condition would just "disappear" after she found her "destiny". Mental illnesses don't go away easily, much less in a few months. I personally theorize that she must have gotten her hands on Avatar's verison of medication pills, some herbs or something such that calm down her symptons. Apparently, Azula managed to befriend some of the mental patients at the mental asylum. But they seem pretty sane from the scenes we see of them in Smoke & Shadow. That's <i>really </i>strange. Let's say I were to believe that Azula cured her mental illness through finding her destiny. What about the others? They were put in the mental asylum for a reason. They seem so normal and calm, though. I also find it quite eerie when Azula said to Zuko "But eventually, you will become <i>just like me</i>". Just like me as in just as ruthless and intimidating? Or just like me as in just as bakstabbed and mentally ill? I always suspected that Azula's loathed Zuko for putting her in that looney bin and it felt confirmed after she described it as "that horrible institution". Either way, I just have a really hard to believing that she only wants Zuko to rule through fear. <span style="font-weight:normal;">To be the Fire Lord she thought she was meant to be. </span>What's she to gain from all this? The Azula that we all know never does anything unless she it benefits her for her endless quest to achieve power or amuses her. I do believe that she really did give up on her quest for the throne, but not for the reasons she said. Dear god, Smoke & Shadow Part 3 left me with more questions than answers.
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<p>Why couldn't Zuko just take the Fire Lord Crown while Sozin's Comet was still flying above the atmosphere immediately after Azula's defeat?
</p><p>He shouldn't have a lot of people at his coronation.
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<div class="quote"><i>Hiromichi wrote:
Why couldn't Zuko just take the Fire Lord Crown while Sozin's Comet was still flying above the atmosphere immediately after Azula's defeat? <p>He shouldn't have a lot of people at his coronation. </p> </i></div>
<p>Well, in most monarchies, a monarch technically becomes monarch at the moment the old one dies or steps down, but still go through a formal coronation to make it official. Queen Elizabeth, for example, technically became queen when her father died but her actual coronoation wasn't until months later. I assume it's asimilar case with Zuko; he was technicallyy in control from the moment of Azula's defeat, but the coronation was to officialize it. </p>
Why couldn't Zuko just take the Fire Lord Crown while Sozin's Comet was still flying above the atmosphere immediately after Azula's defeat? <p>He shouldn't have a lot of people at his coronation. </p> </i></div>
<p>Well, in most monarchies, a monarch technically becomes monarch at the moment the old one dies or steps down, but still go through a formal coronation to make it official. Queen Elizabeth, for example, technically became queen when her father died but her actual coronoation wasn't until months later. I assume it's asimilar case with Zuko; he was technicallyy in control from the moment of Azula's defeat, but the coronation was to officialize it. </p>
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and Azula's coronation would've been official if Zuko didn't make it in time.
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<div class="quote"><i>Hiromichi wrote:
Why couldn't Zuko just take the Fire Lord Crown while Sozin's Comet was still flying above the atmosphere immediately after Azula's defeat? <p>He shouldn't have a lot of people at his coronation. </p> </i></div>
<p>Plus, he wanted citzens to be there in the courtyard (I think it's a courtyard?) so he could personally tell them that the war was finally over and that Ozai had been overthrown by the Avatar. I don't really think there were a lot of fire nation citzens present, though. </p>
Why couldn't Zuko just take the Fire Lord Crown while Sozin's Comet was still flying above the atmosphere immediately after Azula's defeat? <p>He shouldn't have a lot of people at his coronation. </p> </i></div>
<p>Plus, he wanted citzens to be there in the courtyard (I think it's a courtyard?) so he could personally tell them that the war was finally over and that Ozai had been overthrown by the Avatar. I don't really think there were a lot of fire nation citzens present, though. </p>
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<p>Azula is worthy of respect. She works. She creates itself and the world. And her character is not an obstacle to work. In the Italian province of Rimini once lived a great tyrant. He corresponded with the Pope. Pope threatened the tyrant that he go to hell. But these threats are only amused tyrant. Azula no longer crazy. She's super effective. And because of it, I am sorry that she will lose.
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<p>She's back to being a calculating manipulator rather than being in villainous-breakdown mode like she was between Book 3 and <i>The Search</i>. It remains that she's a vicious wounded eel-hound who tries to bite everything within reach.
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<div class="quote"><i>Hiromichi wrote:
Azula's sanity may be gone forever. <p>if she finds Hakoda, she might try to scratch his eyes out. </p><p>if she saw the invasion force freed, she mgiht rage and try to fight them in anger. </p> </i></div>
<p>That's what I'd like to see. </p><p>Anyways, I think she's really down the drain, sanity gone forever and stuff, but some of the worst symptoms might've healed (how? don't ask me. medications, traditional medicine, some spiritual explanation, we can't know) and she's slowly putting herself back, back to what she was. </p><p>So we're talking about the return of badass Azula, and I don't think she's giving up her quest for power yet. As it was said before, her plans might've changed, but she's not backing down, surrendering to all of Zuko's plans with the nation. </p>
Azula's sanity may be gone forever. <p>if she finds Hakoda, she might try to scratch his eyes out. </p><p>if she saw the invasion force freed, she mgiht rage and try to fight them in anger. </p> </i></div>
<p>That's what I'd like to see. </p><p>Anyways, I think she's really down the drain, sanity gone forever and stuff, but some of the worst symptoms might've healed (how? don't ask me. medications, traditional medicine, some spiritual explanation, we can't know) and she's slowly putting herself back, back to what she was. </p><p>So we're talking about the return of badass Azula, and I don't think she's giving up her quest for power yet. As it was said before, her plans might've changed, but she's not backing down, surrendering to all of Zuko's plans with the nation. </p>
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<div class="quote"><i>Emperor Qin wrote:
<div class="quote">Hiromichi wrote:
Azula's sanity may be gone forever. <p>if she finds Hakoda, she might try to scratch his eyes out. </p><p>if she saw the invasion force freed, she mgiht rage and try to fight them in anger. </p> </i></div>
That's what I'd like to see. <p>Anyways, I think she's really down the drain, sanity gone forever and stuff, but some of the worst symptoms might've healed (how? don't ask me. medications, traditional medicine, some spiritual explanation, we can't know) and she's slowly putting herself back, back to what she was. </p><p>So we're talking about the return of badass Azula, and I don't think she's giving up her quest for power yet. As it was said before, her plans might've changed, but she's not backing down, surrendering to all of Zuko's plans with the nation. </p> </div> <p>I'm not really sure about Azula returning as she once was. If you pay close attention, you'll notice that she seems a lot more....<i>wild, </i>then she use to be. If she really was that bent over achieving ultimate power, wouldn't she be a lot less free then she claims she is? She purposefully messes up hair in one of her scenes with Mai. Neat Hair= Perfect Azula. C'mon, that was established in the series. </p>
<div class="quote">Hiromichi wrote:
Azula's sanity may be gone forever. <p>if she finds Hakoda, she might try to scratch his eyes out. </p><p>if she saw the invasion force freed, she mgiht rage and try to fight them in anger. </p> </i></div>
That's what I'd like to see. <p>Anyways, I think she's really down the drain, sanity gone forever and stuff, but some of the worst symptoms might've healed (how? don't ask me. medications, traditional medicine, some spiritual explanation, we can't know) and she's slowly putting herself back, back to what she was. </p><p>So we're talking about the return of badass Azula, and I don't think she's giving up her quest for power yet. As it was said before, her plans might've changed, but she's not backing down, surrendering to all of Zuko's plans with the nation. </p> </div> <p>I'm not really sure about Azula returning as she once was. If you pay close attention, you'll notice that she seems a lot more....<i>wild, </i>then she use to be. If she really was that bent over achieving ultimate power, wouldn't she be a lot less free then she claims she is? She purposefully messes up hair in one of her scenes with Mai. Neat Hair= Perfect Azula. C'mon, that was established in the series. </p>
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<div class="quote"><i>Integer115 wrote:
Azula is worthy of respect. She works. She creates itself and the world. And her character is not an obstacle to work. In the Italian province of Rimini once lived a great tyrant. He corresponded with the Pope. Pope threatened the tyrant that he go to hell. But these threats are only amused tyrant. Azula no longer crazy. She's super effective. And because of it, I am sorry that she will lose.</i></div>
<p>How does she create the world? </p>
Azula is worthy of respect. She works. She creates itself and the world. And her character is not an obstacle to work. In the Italian province of Rimini once lived a great tyrant. He corresponded with the Pope. Pope threatened the tyrant that he go to hell. But these threats are only amused tyrant. Azula no longer crazy. She's super effective. And because of it, I am sorry that she will lose.</i></div>
<p>How does she create the world? </p>
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<div class="quote"><i>Integer115 wrote:
Azula is worthy of respect. She works. She creates itself and the world. And her character is not an obstacle to work. In the Italian province of Rimini once lived a great tyrant. He corresponded with the Pope. Pope threatened the tyrant that he go to hell. But these threats are only amused tyrant. Azula no longer crazy. She's super effective. And because of it, I am sorry that she will lose.</i></div>
How? No matter how awesome she is, Azula is still a murderous sociopath that wants to become Firelord and create another Hundred Year War. If you look at the rest of the world's perspective, Azula is not worthy of respect, and to the rest of the world she is very<figure class="article-thumb tright show-info-icon" style="width: 180px">
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Azula is worthy of respect. She works. She creates itself and the world. And her character is not an obstacle to work. In the Italian province of Rimini once lived a great tyrant. He corresponded with the Pope. Pope threatened the tyrant that he go to hell. But these threats are only amused tyrant. Azula no longer crazy. She's super effective. And because of it, I am sorry that she will lose.</i></div>
How? No matter how awesome she is, Azula is still a murderous sociopath that wants to become Firelord and create another Hundred Year War. If you look at the rest of the world's perspective, Azula is not worthy of respect, and to the rest of the world she is very<figure class="article-thumb tright show-info-icon" style="width: 180px">
<figcaption> </figcaption></figure> dangerous.
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