<div class="quote"><i>Poet Laghima wrote:
Simply put, bending powers alone: <p>Amon > Zaheer > Kuvira > Unalaq. </p><p>Unalaq is obviously the worst since besides bending random spirits, all he can do is skilled waterbending, which is not a rare thing. Kuvira is slightly better due to her more creative fighting style and swift movement, but her and Unalaq are both merely skilled benders but do not have special bending powers. Now on the next level: Amon and Zaheer. They both unlocked a never before seen usage of their respective bending arts. Amon learned bloodbending without a full moon and using it to take away bending; Zaheer unlocked flight as well as breathbending (what he did to the Earth Queen). But I would have to give it to Amon because his bending powers are literally so overpowered. His range is way greater than any of the other three, so if the other three villains start attacking, they would not even get close because Amon would literally just bloodbend them to his will. Zaheer might be able to dodge Amon's control with his flying but if we put them in an indoor arena, then even he would not be able to defeat Amon because of the limited space. </p><p>Now comparing the villains with their finale form (basically their most powerful form in their respective times in the series): </p><p>UnaVaatu > Kuvira with Colossus > Flying Zaheer > Amon </p><p>This time Zaheer and Amon are in the lower league because honestly they didn't get much of a boost in the finale. Amon didn't get any boost at all as he merely had bloodbending. Zaheer was a bit more powerful with his flying. But I have to give the most powerful titles to UnaVaatu and Colossus Kuvira, since both of them utilize extremely deadly Vaatu beams. In this respect, UnaVaatu is more powerful than Colossus Kuvira since he is literally Vaatu himself. Furthermore, Kuvira needs to bend her Colossus with extreme strength, something that will eventually wear out in battle; plus her Colossus has been demonstrated to be quite vulnerable and immobile. She also has limited spiritual energy. But UnaVaatu being the literal incarnation of evil himself can shoot energy beams like water guns, fly around the face of earth, and as a spirit, become literally unbendable, unkillable, and infinitely mobile. So I think UnaVaatu would simply destroy Amon with a finger and dodge Kuvira's Colossus attacks with his spirit kite thing and simply find a way to tip it over and destroy it. Zaheer with flying might have some more mobility but in the end, it's like hitting an egg against a giant boulder. </p> </i></div>
<p>If you say that you consider bending powers alone, then why do you allow Kuvira to use her mech, then (as I said in a previous post) we should allow Amon to battle with his group of equalists, and Zaheer to battle with the other members of the Red Lotus. Furthermore, I don't think that Zaheer's flying ability would allow him to defeat Amon, since I don't think it matters if he moves very fast, because Amon would still be able to blood bend him, but suppose that for some strange reason Amon wouldn't be able to bloodbend Zaheer, then he could use his regular waterbending. Moreover, even though Kuvira's Colossus is enormous, and very powerful you must consider its purpose, which is to defeat great armies, and conquer nations, which would mean that it isn't very effective against single persons, such as Amon, and definitely Zaheer, because of his amazing mobility. So I actually, don't think that Kuvira with her Colossus would be able to defeat Amon or Zaheer (if the battle is on a open field, then Amon would probably be toasted, but she would never catch Zaheer). However, Amon, and Zaheer wouldn't be able to defeat Kuvira with her Colussus either, unless they have some assistance, or if Amon manages to enter the Colossus, or if Amon can bloodbend Kuvira from outside of the Colossus.  </p>

<p>Flying Zaheer vs Amon would depend on the range of Amon's bloodbending grip and how impressive his waterbending is. </p><p>I think the spirit ray is fast enough to get Zaheer. It has relative speed compared to the water beam Korra shot at Zaheer to freeze his leg that spanned miles. Plus Kuvira can move it like a laser pointer if she misses. </p>

<div class="quote"><i>Warriormind556 wrote:
Flying Zaheer vs Amon would depend on the range of Amon's bloodbending grip and how impressive his waterbending is. <p>I think the spirit ray is fast enough to get Zaheer. It has relative speed compared to the water beam Korra shot at Zaheer to freeze his leg that spanned miles. Plus Kuvira can move it like a laser pointer if she misses. </p> </i></div>
<p>Yes it depends on Amon's range, and how impressive his waterbending is, I personally think that he has enough range and skill to defeat Zaheer, but if you want to be convinced I advice you to look further up in this discussion where you can find very many posts that is discussing who would win between Amon and Zaheer. </p><p>The important fact with the spirit ray is if Kuvira can move it around as fast as Zaheer flies, if not I don't think that she could hit Zaheer, since it would probably be almost impossible to get a direct hit on Zaheer. </p>

<p>Nope. The laser was dodged numerous times by people way slower tha flying Zaheer, and it takes time to redirect. </p>

Mainly at close ranges where its hard to point around fast. But eventually Zaheer will tire out and get hit. Its not like Zaheer's airbending can break the reinforced windows.

<p>No, it's slower than a person moving her arms so i doubt Zaheer, who is much faster than the airbenders with bat clothes, couldn't dodge it even tired. And it would take time to tire him and Kuvira doesn't have unlimited shots. </p><p>Now, are we seriously considering this fight? I mean don't you guys think this is a little too much for Zaheer? </p>

<p>Uh Zaheer getting hit by waterbending(which moves slower) is clear proof he will get hit eventually. And the ammount of airbenders killed is probably substantial. When Korra said "get the wounded to Asami's office" the ammount of airbenders missing is great. </p><p>Yeah, only UnaVaatu can take on Collossus. </p>

He gets his foot iced runing towards Korra in the AS. Unless he's trying to take Kuvira down as fast as he can he can just fly aroud the mecha and it will hardly even aim at him.

<p>Kuvira's aim was horrible with the spirit cannon. She could not hit moving and even some stationary targets well. Unless hindered by something else, Zaheer can fly effortlessly, easily levitating or flying miles away instead of taking an airship. It isn't apparently any more likely for him to get tired from just flying than Kuvira is likely to tire from bending the controls of the colossus. </p><p>With his crew, I have to believe they'd find a way to destroy the colossus. But in a straight up 1v1 I don't think he can pull it off. That said, he can't kill her, she can't kill him. </p>

<p>@ElementalUnity... </p><p>I don't follow your logic concerning your statement about Unalaq resisting Amon's bloodbending. You mentioned that Katara was able to do it when she fought Hama, which would indicate that a highly-skilled waterbender can indeed neutralize a bloodbender's grip on them. How is Katara able to beat Hama, but Unalaq is not able to defeat Amon? I can accept the fact that Amon is a far superior bloodbender than Hama, but I would also postulate that the older and more experienced Unalaq is a far superior waterbender than Katara was when she was a teenage amateur. Perhaps I misunderstood your statement? </p><p>@PoetLaghima... </p><p>While I agree with you that Unalaq probably could not prevail against Amon in a mano-a-mano street fight, I would very much disagree that he is the worst in terms of bending ability. This is a man who was able to hold his own in a fight with the Avatar, and he defeated his exceptionally-skilled waterbender brother in combat (granted with a little help from his kids, but the battle on both sides was pretty impressive). </p><p>I would argue that, while Unalaq would have a hard time taking down Kuvira, he would still stand a good chance against Zaheer. Flying is a great way to get away from a fight, but not to win one. And I would imagine that he can't use his suffocation technique from a long distance, meaning that he would have to get close to his opponent to kill them...not a good idea against any of these guys. </p>