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5th bending form
if the island creature was right, then bending came from his kind, because they were the first creatures with ties to the spirit world.

That is unknown, but the Lion Turtle spoke of an era 'before the Avatar'. That might mean that once the elements could be manipulated through bending, the Avatar was necessary to keep them in balance. The spirit world has many animals (dragons, monkeys, pandas ,swamp creatures etc plus the two Koi fish) so elemental bending could come from those creatures. PhantomS 17:55, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Using spiritbending to make airbenders?
Someone at the IMDB boards asked that, considering Aang was able to take away the Fire Lord's firebending, could Aang give someone the ability to airbend?

I thought about this too, but came into a conclusion that giving energy is a lot more difficult than taking it, if not outright impossible, and probably not worth all the risk.

^^Please sighn your name with four of these ~. Next I think that is a good point. I dont think that he can create it but maybe transfer his own bending, but he would lose airbending. Scott 18:39, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Mike and Bryan already said that bending is a talent-turned-skill, and that after a certain age, you can't become a bender, you'll never see a 50 year old suddenly starting to bend. I don't know how spiritbending would affect that, but I think that people would need to have the talent, which would be turned into skill via spiritbending. I also think that it's possible to give back the bending after taking it. The skill is there, it's just inaccessible. Omnibender 18:46, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

We can't call it like that anymore, nick.com says it's Energybending now. Omnibender 19:39, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

So an example would of an older person would be like Piandao who would be able to gain a bending ability if he were younger, or Sokka now. Scott 23:04, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't remember the interview word by word, but I think the age limit is 7 or 8 years, Sokka and Katara's ages during The Southern Raiders I think. Omnibender 23:25, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * So just turn the youngest Air Walkers into Air Nomads and the problem is solved, they have enough spirit for Aang to be ok with being airbenders and they are already living in an Air Temple =b Felinoel 01:17, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Alternatively, perhaps he couldn't actually give them the airbending ability, but he could use Spiritbending to detect those who have the potential of learning it? 84.250.246.11 06:07, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Please use four tildes (~) to leave your name at the end, and I definitely think those Air Walkers will become the new Air Nomads Felinoel 05:47, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Well I don't think there's anyone here who thinks that they won't become Air Nomads. Also I don't have a name. 84.250.246.11 06:07, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Odd, at a forum I go to people didn't even know who they were much less think that way, they even didn't believe they were called Air Walkers... or was the not believing part here...? It is kind of required to sign your posts, regardless of whether or not you have a name Felinoel 06:48, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, this way we have a link to your contributions page. I don't think the Air Walkers will become Air Nomads, you just don't turn into an Air Nomad, I believe you have to be born into them. By Air Walkers we are talking of the EK refugees from the NAT right? Omnibender 00:03, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * lol yea them, then fine, maybe they could energybend up some unborn Air Walkers still inside the mom? =b Felinoel 01:56, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Who knows? Maybe. I still choose to believe that bending results from genetics and spirituality mix, and that to be a bend an element, one parent must be from the corresponding nation, though that might be a subconscious Kataang mindset. Anyway, maybe all children are born with a possibility of bending, but since spirituality plays a part, that might up or down the odds of someone being a bender. Omnibender 02:23, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I like to think all are born able to bend but spirituality plays a part and some are born with the possibility to be great at bending Felinoel 02:27, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I think it's more of spirituality than genetics, because long ago, the first airbenders were able to learn the skill from the bisons, even when their parent's weren't airbenders. And since the Air Walker lifestyle is relatively close to Air Nomads, it's quite reasonable to think that they could learn airbending some time in the future. 84.250.246.11 06:21, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Or maybe their descendants will. - Zero - Talk 12:09, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

What is more likely is that Aang's descendants will multiply (maybe even with the Air Walkers) and slowly repopulate the Air Nomad community over the years. The Air Nomads always seemed like the smallest of the Four Nations to start with, so it will be no time before the numbers come back up. There might even be Airbenders born into other cultures (Fire, Water, Earth) by then. Setting them up by Energybending is a bit silly- that stuff predates elemental bending, and is used to bend someone's spirit (bending comes from spirituality) ,but not to make a non-bender a bender. PhantomS 15:30, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

For everything that has a positive there exists negative and vice versa. Its not silly. - Zero - Talk 12:04, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

The Avatar world is one where logic is defied in more ways than one. Energybending is arguably something Aang won't do too often as his spirit is not unbendable (Ozai nearly corrupted him), plus he only did it as a last resort to avoid killing the fire Lord. He won't go around Energybending people to find out if they can airbend; it's far easier for him just to teach people how. There is no 'positive- negative' rule here ,as there is no known opposite for Spiritbending (speculation not welcome) unlike with the Four Elements.

I'm well aware of your postings here, so I won't turn this into a squealing arguement on your part.PhantomS 18:03, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

You are right about the dangers of spiritbending. You do have a point, I agree. But know that this is only speculation. Not fact. This whole section is merely speculation. It was never intended to be put in the article, unless it actually is what happens. Even I dont put all my hopes in this. Since its not fact and is speculation therefore I dont need to argue. Also I ask that you be a little more polite. By Positive and Negative I meant that maybe, just maybe, if Aang can take away bending through energybending then maybe he can give the gift as well. But then again this is only speculation (Its a talk page, the normal rules of writing only fact can be bent here). Who knows what will happen. I'm not saying that this is the only way, all I'm saying that It could be one of the ways. Aang's decendants are a valid lead as well. - Zero - Talk 07:31, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

List Of Avatars
1. Unknown Firebender 2. Yangchen 4. Kuruk 5. Kyoshi 6. Ruko 7. Aang BGizzles45 02:23, 28 July 2008 (UTC) 02:23, 28 July 2008 (UTC)02:23, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * ??? Felinoel 03:25, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Trivia
I don't understand the trivia here, does anyone understand it? felinoel ~ (Talk) 16:59, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

I do. During the show Aangs eyes and Tatoos have been known to either glow completely white or white with just a hint of blue. That what he's saying. Zero - Talk 06:45, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * And the lighting changing affecting the visable color spectrum is important because? felinoel ~ (Talk) 01:46, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

It just trivia. Its not that important though. And No. I did'nt put it there. So if you really want to you can remove it. - Zero - Talk 05:29, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * My post is about how I don't see it as trivia and I feel it should be changed to something else, if you feel trivia is not important why don't you remove all the triva from every page then? felinoel ~ (Talk) 08:14, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

I didnt say trivia is unimportant. What i meant was that If you find that this trivia has no place here then you may remove it. Seriously. - Zero - Talk 08:31, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * And what I meant is that it is not trivia, it is something else entirely, it could be kept if given a different label felinoel ~ (Talk) 08:41, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Energybending
wait where was it said that only avatars could energybend? can't every bender do it?

Nick.com, their Avatar site. Seriously, does anyone ever goes there before asking something here? Omnibender - Talk 15:55, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Not really felinoel ~ (Talk) 08:14, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Yup. I agree with felinoel. (Wow. Did I really say that?) lol - Zero - Talk 10:32, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

thanks.
 * Please remember to sign your posts with four tildes (~) felinoel ~ (Talk) 19:24, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Avatar State
Should Avatar state have it's own article because there is a lot of information?--Lightning Shenron 21:40, 31 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Perhaps, but it is directly related to the Avatar and to nothing else, so unless the page is ridiculously long, it isn't needed. The 888th Avatar (Talk) 21:44, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Avatar Life Span
In the episode where Roku shows Aang his death against the volcano on his home island, notice his wife is sleeping in bed next to him,before the eruption,withered and old like he is.

If the avatar has an unusual life span Roku would look the age of his early 40'ies, not an old man. Although the possibility remains that he would be able to live as an elderly man for over a century, it is still not plausible.


 * I would assume that the Avatar stays elderly for a long period of time. After all, they're supposed to be wise... The 888th Avatar  (Talk) 23:48, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Thier "Genetic Aging" doesn't seem to slow. This is not Wheel of Time even if one of the episodes was named like one of WoT Books (Crossroads of Destiny: Crossroads of Twighlight). But their life spans seem to be long. So while outwardly they do age normally. That doesn't mean that they will die when they get wrinkles do they? Death occurs when all neurological pulses of the brain cease. Both the voluntary ones and the involuntary ones. Not before. - Zero - Talk 06:50, 21 April 2009 (UTC)