Talk:Aang/@comment-173.24.226.148-20101127031903/@comment-3068994-20101127153836

Sure thing, AvaFan. @nony, you put a lot of thought in, but you totally didn't understand Katara. Guilt? She loved Aang out of guilt? Yeah, that's impressive. no.......

Oh and fyi to everyone, Zutara existed long before the hug. It was made fun of and poked at by the creators when they realized many of their viewers were desiring Zuko x Katara to be together.


 * --Begin Katara's feeligns---

Throughout season one, she sees him merely as a friend. A childish, goofy friend that she can't fully comprehend, but trusts nonetheless as he has a good heart. It isn't until the episode Fortuneteller that she realizes he's actually a person, capable of more than simply what she had let him become to her. However, she doesn't build on that. He still seems a bit too "off" to her, though she realizes he has been growing responsibly at this point. By the end of season one, she's actually built up a lot more respect for him, realizing he's truly more responsible than when they first met and she appreciates that in him. Seeing him devote his all to saving the Northern Water Tribe, and almost losing him to Zuko, she's grown past seeing him as a goofy irresponsible child.

At the start of season two, she's actually developed a small crush on him. She even acts on this in the second episode, Cave of Two Lovers. However, she puts off her feelings for him as the following events that take place overshadow her crush - the very next thing they see after this is the destruction of Omashu and she is reminded of the war. Throughout season two, she knows she likes Aang, but is unsure really just how much she does, as she still sees him as a friend while having mixed emotions over the crush she'd felt. By the end of season two, all is well - the Earth Kingdom has offered their full support, and she sees the end of the war in sight. Having this beacon of hope is important to her, as it eases her fears of the war. When Aang tries to tell her how he feels for her before leaving for the Guru, she already knows what he's going to say, but is genuinely concerned how she would answer him. She'd probably not have said she loved him, and been nervous at his confessed affection for her, but may have started a small relationship with him - however, Sokka broke it up with his brotherly "Man-time" with Aang. While she was concerned how to answer, she didn't like having that opportunity removed, noted by her sharp scowl at this interruption. She still held peace though, due to the threat of the war feeling less, and gave Aang a kiss on his cheek - they could talk about this when he got back. However, the next time he came back - she saw him die. It was here she realized how much she truly cared for him, and that it was too late for any relationship to grow. Not just that, but her world of peace and hope shattered with him, along with the fall of the Earth Kingdom. She was nothing more than a broken shell of a woman, waiting for Zuko and Azula to claim her life too - until Iroh arrived and brought sense to her to leave.

At the start of season three, she knows she really loves Aang. It's more than just a simple crush, but she is still bearing a weighted, twisted mix of emotions that are overwhelming her. She's back to fearing the war, this time in hiding as the world thinks the Avatar is dead. She's been reminded of her loss of her mother, and she's torn over her feelings for her father, and hatred for the betrayal she saw from misplaced trust in Zuko, who had a part in ending Aang's life. - Her affection for Aang is displayed continuously throughout the start of the season, even so much as to her jealousy to see Aang with another girl, before nervously accepting his request to dance. The following portions, they really are building their relationship with one another, beyond what it was beforehand. When he finally takes her by surprise, kissing her, she falls into the kiss willingly as she does want it. However, upon finishing she shares his fear that he may not come back from this, strongly feeling it was an inappropriate time to do that, she doesn't want to attach to him and start a relationship only to have it end in death. Her loss of her father and every other supporter against the Fire Nation that stood by her side that day leaves her emotionally torn, only to become further exasperated when Zuko shows up. At this point, she's far too emotionally unstable to consider any relationship.

In The Southern Raiders, we see just how much Aang truly knows Katara, inside and out. He calls out her innermost feelings, and she admits to them that he is right. As quoted by Mike and Bryan's commentary for the episode, throughout this trying time chasing down Yon Rha and confronting him, Aang is like "the little angel on her shoulder". As in, his gentle support for her actions, with pleading attempts to consider what she's doing, stays in her mind. Even Zuko tells Aang he knew what was best for Katara by the end of the episode.

Then the very next episode, Aang discusses with her why they aren't a couple. She voices her very concerns that have been troubling her for the past episodes, telling him point blank and honestly that she is very confused/emotional, and that their attention should be solely focused on the war efforts and ending it, rather than divided toward one another. "Now is not the right time." She doesn't turn him down, but voices her desire to put it off. She had just met her mothers' killer in the last episode, so Aang's advance here is a bit foolish on his part - but very human. She is shown immediately following this, very distraught when the play brings up their very discussion, rubbing in her face Aang's pain. But ultimately she is still feeling just as before.

When it's time for the final confrontation, and Aang goes missing, she is shown as concerned and looking for him - just as much as the rest of the group. However, before the final time arrives, she's sat back her fears and has rested on Iroh's unquestionable faith in Aang and his words of wisdom; Toph had asked what if Aang doesn't come back, Iroh replied "Sozin's Comet is arriving, and our destinies are upon us. Aang will face the Firelord." When it is time, the Avatar will be there. She holds this worry within herself, not voicing it as she is relying on the trust she has in Aang that he will do what is right - she always trusted Aang from the start of the show, and this time is no different. Except, she fears he may not survive, but silences her fears with hardened hope. If she allowed her emotions for him to complicate her actions, she wouldn't perform appropriately when facing Azula. For a reminder this being the case, think back to Day of Black Sun, where she dismissed all thoughts of his kiss to focus on the invasion and the survival of those around her. This is shown after Zuko had asked for her help to take down Azula - as if she would turn that down - and Zuko asks her "What if he loses?" - She states her absolute faith "He won't lose. He's gonna come back." But then she hesitates, looking away. "He has to.." - She continues to deny herself the fear she won't see him again, nor that he may fail.

After reuniting with Aang afterward, she is proud that both she and he had a part in ending the war. Peace settles within her unlike ever before, her torn, mixed emotions finally calming. She already knew she cared for Aang, but now, now was peace. Now she could give in to her feelings for him without fear, and truly explore how much it was that she really cared for him. The war was over, and so was her confusion.

Do note her change in outfit at this stage too; she'd released her mothers' necklace from around her neck and wore a beautiful Earth Kingdom dress - not a dress that would be fit to fight in. She was at peace within herself at last.
 * ---End Katara's feelings

Katara was never planned to be with Zuko from the start. What you are referring to is the Avatar Extra that claims "Zuko and Katara were originally planned. Katara does like bad boys."  From the  very  beginning of the show, it was Aang. As stated in an interview with Bryke, they said (not a direct quote:) Yeah the whole Aang and Katara thing, that was in the DNA from the start of the show. They are even shown laughing during the pilot episode, before their series even began/they are pitching the ideas, that they are even in it shipping Aang x Katara. This in turn also puts out Aang with Toph from the start; not gonna happen, and never was gonna happen, the two don't work together.

The word of the creators is where the truth lies. The Avatar Extras are an element added by Nick as a way to boost popularity and get a higher viewer count after the series has already aired for a long while. What's the best way to do this? Tug at the strings viewers find the most intriguing. Shipping wars is obviously one of them. Nick did not use Mike/Bryan for their source material, they pulled a writer for the information. While it is true they had access to a lot of in depth information, it is equally true they had incorrect information as well. Example.


 * ---Begin Avatar Extra failures

Katara does NOT kiss Jet. This is in Avatar Extras. And, why is that? Because Nick is tring to fuel the flames of excitement to give viewers a reason to watch the show again. They encourage shippers and anyone simply to raise their ratings. AVATAR EXTRAS ARE NOT CANON! They are by Nick, NOT MIKE & BRYAN! …Extras that are stupid… Ep 1 - '''Zuko was originally going to be the love interest for Katara. She does like bad boys.'''


 * :: Right… then why did she ditch Jet when she found out he Was bad? This is a joke for the ‘Ember Island Players Actress Katara’ character.

Ep 3 - About Kyoshi Warriors: Original members of Kiss.


 * :: Comic relief. Just to state they obviously kid.

Ep 6 - [as Haru prepares to earthbend] About to show off.


 * :: He’s NOT showing off crumbling the rock to sand! He’s reminiscing his father.

- Oldest man in the Earth Nation


 * :: We don’t know his age. But I’d wager Bumi beats him. (guy trapped by the mine)

Ep 7 - (In the Winter Solstice episodes) Fact: Zuko has a hard time telling these Fire Nation soldiers apart.

- He's actually never seen them without their masks.


 * :: WRONG. The very first episode shows them without masks! (good luck spotting it like I did. It's right when Zuko shouts wake my uncle)

Western Air Temple: - "Aang has mastered three elements so far"
 * -- Wrong. He's great at waterbending, but earth has not been mastered, or close to. He's really just master airbender still, but talented/capable with waterbending. This is seen later when Toph tells him his Earthbending could still use work.
 * ---End Avatar Extra Failures

Sure, Zuko and Katara both lost their mommies, that hardly gives rise for the two to be together. That's like saying Teo should be with Toph because they both know what having a handicap is like. You can't pair people up like that. And you can't rule out Aang's sense of loss simply because "He didn't lose his mom." He knows what pain is.

And not just this, he knows who Katara is. He knows her innermost feelings, and understands her loss on a level Zuko doesn't (After all, Zuko doesn't know her at all). This is shown in the Southern Raiders, when Aang calls out Katara's true feelings that she wants revenge more than justice - which Zuko was pushing for. Katara admits that Aang is right, but he lets her go, saying this is a journey she must face. During the commentary for this episode, Mike/Bryan add that Aang is like Katara's Angel on her shoulder during this episode, as in his kind-hearted words and calm request to consider what she's doing stays with her throughout it. Then, at the very end, even Zuko admits to Aang that Aang knew what was best for Katara.