Talk:Iroh/@comment-3278061-20110928165231/@comment-3278061-20111109211225

Considered and rejected since the canon shows Considered and rejected you haven’t given me anything but speculation and made up nonsense. If you have given me something co I have given you fact after fact to support my claims but since facts hurt your joke of an argument you try to discredit, that’s the first sign of a weak argument. First off I don’t need to change my views on anything if you make an assertion you have to back it up with facts. You wording makes ozai seem weak but according to the creator and I quote “BK: Ozai is not like some kind of palace dweller. We will say that. I'm not sure how much he's ventured out into the world, but he's not like the Earth King where he's isolated. The Fire Nation is a little more 'hands on'. It's not uncommon that you will have to fight or duel for political or military positions or purposes. There's a big difference. I think in the Fire Nation, unlike in Ba Sing Se, if there's a prince who's 30 years old, he's probably fought pretty intensely a few times. Had to prove his worth. Not unlike Japanese Samurai in their day. They had to make a name for themselves, they had to have some fame. Fire Nation, like a lot of other militaristic cultures throughout history, has warriors who have to prove themselves either through some battle, test of martial skill, or duel. Fire Nation's a little more aggressive like that. Ozai's not sitting around eating Bon Bon's in the palace, he's working out”. Simple and plain, you think iroh is superior? Prove it. And every other assertion and ridiculous notion you have made, prove them if you can’t we have nothing to talk about. Again learn how court works Facts are 100% true > Speculation has the possibility of being wrong. What have I stated that isn’t true? I honestly think the judge would listen to your argument for absolute comedy. As for the seeing is believing argument you horribly fail to make, you’re wrong certain things don’t need to be seen to be proven, examples here is an assertion “azulon can bend lightning” even though we never see him do it. Why? because all of his direct descendents have that capability, he was a firebending prodigy who didn’t seem to impressed with azula’s bending and considered it a waste of time and ozai’s would rather kill his own son than confront azulon who was capable at generate lightning in a second or two which solidifies azulon’s status. See, that how you make an assertion and attempt to back it up. Again, I’m not discrediting iroh I am plainly stating he is not as good as everyone makes him out to be. As I said before we agree to disagree you lost now let’s move on.