Talk:Firebending/@comment-110.55.5.110-20120315000404/@comment-4888161-20120321094354

I found one other flaw in your theory. You said firebenders could create wind, but wind is airbending. Technically you may be right, but not to an extent that would do anything. Firebenders MAY (not guaranteed) be able create very minor wind, but it would be just that (very minor) and they wouldn't really have any control over it. Actually, we have no proof firebenders can create any wind at all, but we have proof that water benders can do that (again to a very minor degree but nonetheless can) with a particular technique. And I quote:

"Breath of ice: A waterbender can use their breath to rapidly freeze objects, such as metallic chains, or an opponent. For a more advanced version of the technique, the user takes a deep breath and exhales the air as a cloud of freezing mist. Katara used this technique to freeze Jet to a tree,[15] to save Sokka from Huu,[5] and to stop the warship from sinking by temporarily freezing a hole in the ship's hull. Aang and Roku have used this technique before, possibly combined with airbending, to freeze lava. Also Aang used this to break the chain from where Bumi was being lifted by a crane."

So this proves it can indeed be done by a bender other then an airbender, and certainly by a waterbender. HOWEVER, IT WOULD STILL BE VERY LIMITED. Even the more advanced version had the air in a slow breeze and would not be able to effect anything without the freezing mist that accompanied it. So while firebenders might be also able to use one or more techniques to create a wind (if you could call it that) like this, it would be a simple, minor breeze that would be lucky to blow a folded newspaper away.

Even when using the most powerful (non airbending) technique specifically designed to create a strong wind (this could only be done to create winds stronger than the breath techniques by displacing air), a bender would be lucky to reach 20-30 miles per hour (extremely localized) wind. Even that may be a stretch as that would probably take Avatar level bending (which would be pointless as he/she could just airbend anyways). It wouldn't do anything but blow a little, and would be unfocused and just a basic gust form. Heck, you can stand in 50 mile per hour winds and it might not even bother you (not counting wind chill that's different and reliant on cold air and even then might not bother you and if it did would still be different). Just about everything an airbender does (and especially every wind they create) involves winds at way higher speeds than 20-30, or even 50 miles per hour. And they use wind in many ways, not just as the simple breeze. No other type bender could come close the the effects of that. And that's a good thing, because otherwise there would be no point in airbending which is against the very principles of the Avatar world.

In conclusion:

Practical wind is beyond the reach of firebenders or waterbenders. It technically is possible in a very minor and very basic (short ranged) breeze, but not in any way that would effect anything much if at all. The wind itself, would be relatively pointless.