Talk:Airbending

Section
Shouldn't there be a section of Enhanced Airbending? Airbending is stronger during the fall/autumn, that's also when most Airbenders are born. Omnibender 19:45, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

is it? i dont remember anyone saying that it was, the only bending that would likely to be more powerful during a season is firebending in summer (because its hotter and more heat + more sun) and waterbending in winter (because it is darker more and therefore the moon is in the open more)

Each bending art has its own season, and each one is stronger during it, never mind that, it was a comment from when I hadn't even joined the Wikia, while confirmed by creators, it's just that, and it's already mentioned. Actually many IP comments in the Wikia are mine. Omnibender 23:09, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

survivors
didn't an interveiw with the creater say that there where more airbenders that escaped?


 * If there was such an interview, the fandom would have dissected the interview and speculated until they had a migraine. Omnibender 22:32, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Pure Expression of Airbending??
Every kind of bending has a special and unique technique like Lightning for firebending, Metalbending or Magnitism for Earthbending and Healing for Waterbending. So what's the Pure Expression for Airbending? Making Vacuumes?Zero 08:51, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Not necessarily the purer expression, just an alternate usage of bending that is more complex than the regular use. Vacuum could be, I hoped that Bryke would introduce a sub-skill for Airbending a while ago, but it was in vain. The closest thing was soundbending, the whistle thing in Tales of Ba Sing Se. In the TCG, there are a couple cards which are Airbending moves that use sound, but the game is canon. Omnibende 19:13, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Soundbending would both be sweet and make sense. However, as it is, Airbending is in my opinion the weakest of all elements.

The thing which makes Airbending weak is the Air Nomad philosophy. I think of a thousand gruesome things doable with Airbending, and I'm not talking about the standard "remove the air from someones lungs" thing. Look at The Desert, Aang killed that animal with Airbending and showed no remorse. Omnibender 19:39, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

No Bending is weaker then the other though the elements each have opposites. Fire: Water. Air: Earth. The Power depends solely upon the skill and strength of the bender him/herself. Stated by the creators of the show themselves. Monk Gyatso's skeleton was seen surrounded by dozens of Fire Nation Soldiers showing that he was exceptionally powerful to over come so many firebenders when they had their bending enhaced by the comet.Zero 20:08, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

I didn't mean weak as in no Airbender would win a battle, I meant it as not battle suited, damaging. Omnibender 20:31, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

There is more to bending than battle. The Original Benders all used their bending in order to interact with the world. No bending is weak in battle either. Tornados, Hurricanes and other devastating techniques can be found within airbending as well. Do not judge solely on battle strength alone. It is the inginuity of the bender that counts not the bending. Example: Monk Gyatso, was overwhelmed by two factors: The number of opponents and the power of the comet, yet he was so strong that he defeated/killed many many of his opponents.Zero 20:41, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm sure that if a capable Airbender (not counting Aang) would fight, they would be successful, your example of Gyatso, he fought the Firebenders, they died, which means someone (most likely Gyatso) killed them. Gyatso was able to put aside the Air Nomad philosophy of not harming living beings, even if to protect his home and friends, and that's what made it possible for him to defeat the Fire Nation soldiers. Omnibender 21:11, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

I do not think the air nomad culture was one of absolute pacifism. I think they were allowed to defend themselves though they would try to stall using deadly force for as long as nessesary. By the way lets get back to the topic of discussion. Soundbending in my opinion is the pure expression of airbending. Airbenders would be able to manipulate the wavelength, amplitude, frequency and other properties of sound using their airbending. Thus giving way to a devastating technique that could utilize sound to break almost anything (using resonance) and render humans unconcious or dead when the techique is properly used. I think the Air Nomads phylosiphy of nonconflict stems from the very destructive power of the air.Zero 22:12, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

It is a possibility. Applying knowledges of physics, there are bendings that are possible to more than one Bending Art. Example: Lightbending. Considering the electromagnetic wave nature of light, all four bendings can lightbend. Airbenders can change the density of the air, therefore changing its refraction index, making the air bend the light that goes through it. Waterbenders could do the same thing to water vapor in the air. Earthbenders would need something like crystal dust to do the same thing, and Firebenders do the same thing as Airbenders, but instead of using the pressure of the air to change its refraction index, they'd use the temperature. Flying is also possible with all four bendings. I actually made a list of possible bendings starting from the four main bendings. Omnibender 22:56, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Oww. My head hurts. (Sorry. Couldnt resist. But you're right. However Soundbending is demonstrated in the show as well as flight via firebending but what youve told is mostly not.)Zero 23:26, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

I know, I like to see how bending could go if backed up by science. I have one word for you: far. Omnibender 23:35, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Haha. All too true buddy. By the way I like your attitude. Maybe you should consider joining the comunity. Just Sign up its free.Zero 23:39, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

I think I will, I started coming here just for info, but then I started adding something here, correction grammar and spelling there, adding templates... I even started some pages (Healing and Metalbending for example). Omnibender 23:44, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Mastering Airbending
I think we should add something about how you have to make a technique to master air (along with actually mastering it) and once you master it, you get your arrow. I just don't know where that should go though.Joeyaa 12:50, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it has been mentioned, isn't it? Omnibender 00:00, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Now that I look closely it says the arrow, but nothing about making their own move/attack...Joeyaa 00:03, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Actually the Airbenders were required to master a number of tiers of airbending (31 or something, I'm not sure) and make one original move to get their arrow. Aang had mastered all of the tiers except one. He only got his arrows prematurely because he made his own move: The Air Scooter. Zero - Talk 08:09, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Wasn't it mastering the 36 levels or making a new move? I remember reading in the scroll thingy that Aang got up to 35th level, but got the arrow because of the air scooter. This is confusing. Omnibender 22:00, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

That's it. It was mastering the 36 tiers and making a new move! Aang only earned his Arrows prematurely because he had made his own move: The Air Scooter and had mastered 35 tiers, one short of the full 36. (Also being the Avatar probably helped as the elders were the ones who conferred the title of master and they knew of Aang's status and destiny before Aang did.) It Airbenders probably usually make their own move after mastering their element's 36 tiers. As evidenced when Aang tells his friends that he made the Air Scooter up himself and one of them exclaimed: Wow! Zero - Talk 13:16, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Avatar Level Airbending?
I think that also an Airbending-Master could make an Air-sphere.

And a tornado. I think "Avatar-Level" implies that it's what an Avatar does with the Avatar State. Everything else is just "Master-Level". Should I reorganize? Puragus - Talk 18:05, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Aang once bended an Air Sphere without the Avatar State in The Swamp, however he was unable to stabalize it without the added power of the Avatar State. If it werent for the Tornado, the Air Sphere would have stayed but with the Avatar State even the Tornado would'nt have been able to break it. Just thought this info might help you guys decide. - Zero - Talk 06:39, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Image Idea
I think I have an idea for the main image. In the show opener, when Katara says "air" and it shows Aang (or Gyatso) airbending, we have that picture on the top of the article. I'm going to suggest the same thing for all four element articles. Alex101313 14:05, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

I think that would be a rather bland for a main image. Omnibender - Talk 14:24, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Possibly, but it would make sense. Alex101313 14:36, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Too boring. I think the pics used right now are perfect. There's a saying: "If its not broken dont fix it". - Zero - Talk 07:18, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Main Image
I don't know about it, I've grown used with the other one, and it kinda looks more dynamic than this one, at least to me. Omnibender - Talk 21:14, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't think the other one looks very dynamic. I always thought it was a little hard to tell what was going on. This one's more clear, because it's front-and-center, at least in my opinion. Puragus - Talk 04:25, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I honestly don't like either one, something a little more simple that easily demonstrates it at first glance. Joey - Talk 04:39, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I dont like this one. Why not the one in which Avatar Yangchen is shown creating great gusts of wind or maybe the one in which Aang bends a Tornado in the Western Air Temple. - Zero - Talk 07:37, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes I like the idea of something powerful. Alex101313 20:13, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

If we're going for "something powerful" on this one, we'll have to go for it on the other bending pages too. Omnibender - Talk 21:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

The one here is powerful, it's right before he freezes lava. But we can change it if people strongly dislike it. Puragus - Talk 21:41, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I personally don't strongly dislike it, it's just it might not be good enough in this case. Alex101313 22:10, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

What makes you think its not good enough? Does it not show the bending form clearly? Puragus - Talk 22:17, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

It does, but this form of airbending is not typical. In fact I have only seen it used a few times in the series. However, if you want we can include the image on the article. And like I said, I like the idea of something powerful. This is powerful but we only know that because we know what happens next; he freezes magma. Alex101313 22:32, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by "form of airbending". It doesn't look any different from any other kind of Airbending I've seen. Anyway, we don't need powerful pics for Bending pages, do we? The Firebending one is just a man holding flames. Puragus - Talk 22:38, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Meaning this type was drawn from his mouth but I'm not exactly sure what its called. And I just think it would be more interesting to have something powerful on the main images, and then we can include this image under a specific type which its perfect for. But by all means, don't take this the wrong way, this image is not at all boring or anything of that nature. Alex101313 22:47, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes! This would be perfect for breath of wind! Alex101313 22:48, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

And let me make this clear: I'm not at all opposed to the idea of changing this image if everyone thinks we should, I just want something clear and dynamic, like on the other bending pages, although I do like the image there is now. If it seems like I'm being zealous, I apologize, I'm just trying to work out a criteria with everybody.

Now, in response to Alex: this technique looks like it's being used with the mouth and arms, not just Breath of Wind, but what does it matter, as long as it's Airbending? Puragus - Talk 22:55, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Alright that makes sense I agree with you on that. So I would like to see some input from other users/admins and see if they oppose this image or not. Alex101313 23:51, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Cloudbending
Cloudbending should be a purely water art. Didn't the swamp water benders use that to provide fog cover for the invasion fleet. Ang was able to collect the cloud in the desert via water bending. I think cloud bending is a purely water art.Rayfire 05:16, 21 December 2008 (UTC)


 * No, clouds are made of water and air. See Episode 14 The Fortuneteller. 888th Avatar - Talk - Contributions 09:45, 21 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, it's kind of a dual territory, much like mud is to Waterbenders and Earthbenders. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 13:57, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

And that is precisely the reason why this has been mentioned in both the Waterbending and Airbending Articles. 16:20, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Amplification
Well it is a form of Airbending just as Metalbending and Sandbending are forms of Earthbending. - Zero - Talk 16:28, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * But those have actual combat potential, amplification doesn't have the same feel as the other alternative styles. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:52, 16 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm inclined to agree with that. The 888th Avatar (Talk) 23:02, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

However Aang has demonstrated the technique at least once and at most twice. So what if it has not been used in combat? Airbenders prefer not to use their bending in combat anyways, remember? - Zero - Talk 07:53, 17 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Nah. I consider it to just be Airbending. It doesn't have the same differences to the base art as do Metalbending and Lightning. The 888th Avatar (Talk) 08:02, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

What about Sandbending? Besides it is slightly different. It bends the Sound. - Zero - Talk 14:06, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

If the bending of sound had enough difference, I'd consider it, but he's just using it to scream louder, we've seen Aang using breathe attacks, that ammount of air doesn't come from his lungs. If they ever show him creating an unnatural sound (by unnatural, I mean it's not his voice, not some object he's using or the sound of wind), or otherwise decreasing or muffling a sound, then I'll change my mind. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:58, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Very well. But I still think we should mention it even if it has been used to increase Aang's voice's volume only. - Zero - Talk 05:45, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

You mean in the infobox or in the article? Cause it's in the article already. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:03, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Infobox, of course. - Zero - Talk 03:50, 19 February 2009 (UTC)