Talk:Azula/@comment-75.94.60.254-20110811072239/@comment-3007997-20110812012429

Ok, for the record, all these things you claim to be cleverness on his side, are all because of others.

In season one it was just "Zhao stole him, so I'll steal him from Zhao", because he just plane wants his honor, no other thoughts and threatening the avatar's life is an obvious way out, dead avatar = reincarnation. And the whole decoy plan in the solstice eps was ok, but Zhao still kinda, saw through it with no problem.

In season 2, It was Azula that pushed him to join her, not his thinking. If it wasn't for her, he would have just stayed with his uncle, i mean really. He was dumb enough to fight Azula with her squad of Dai Li and get himself captured. So i doubt considered betraying Iroh for the perfect time...in fact a large portion of his time in the FN was spent on him being ''confused" as to why he even did it.

He didn't pick the perfect time to betray Ozai on his own either, it was Iroh that guided him to the right direction and it just so happens that the invasion is an obvious opening allowing him to escape while everyone is powerless, which is something even the biggest moron could see would be a great opportunity. And he never would have tried to leave if Azula hadn't set him on edge and made him hire and assassin @_@.

I seriously doubt hes intellect is anywhere near that of a person whos manipulated ppl for years and had took down ba sing se by turning the cities most advanced police force against their leader who so happens to be the most cunning person in the city, whos manipulating and controlling its government for so long. Not to mention her "people skills" lets just call it, that we get to see in both cross roads of destiny and in the boiling rock, plus if you pay attention to all of her other correct predictions as well as achievements through out the show and then look at how Zuko just fumbles over himself 90% of the time, they really don't match up. =p