Talk:Fire Nation/@comment-98.210.20.136-20120630061202/@comment-75.155.92.129-20121104100238

while their could be a strong argument made that the attack on the nomads by the FN was a mirror of China's so called "invasion" of Tibet, keep inmind there are several points to consider. First came under China's rule in the yuan dynasty which was infact a mongol ruled dynasty. and tibet has been apart of China since until the troubled chaotic years of the warlord and civil war era. here various regions includeing ones perdomintly occupied by Han Chinese tried to seek independence from the rest of the country. When the communists came into power in 1949 and took tibet in 1950, it was more of a reclameing of lost territory. Infact many tibetans still admit that despite the fighting, many chinese soldiers would give some money to poor tibetans and help out with crops. on the other hand, the japanese invaded china useing their supperior technology to combat the larger but poorly armed chinese army, sound familiar with the earth kingdom and fire nation? Plus, if you are willing to look at the other side, China has done a lot of great things for tibet as well. Tibet has been more heavily modernized in the 10 years on chinese rule than all the years of its brief independence. life expectancy under chinese rule has also increased by about 30 years. i also disagree with the supposed cultural genocide that is going on in Tibet. Lots of chinese tax paying money goes to tibetan schools to help young tibetans learn about their culture. And if you are going to make the argument that the dalai lama is being excluded from it along with budhism which are 2 very vital points to tibetan culture. keep in mind the point of developing culture is to recognize what is wrong about our society and improve on it. For example: it has been a custom for all cultures to put men above women. but recently we have decided to give women equal rights and unlease try to make them equal in society. why, because we recoginze that although this is a part of our culture, it is not fair or decent and should be forgotten. the reason why i would bring up this point is because if you look into actual tibetan history pre-1950, you would realize that tibet was not at all like the paradise that the dalai lama has claimed that it is. it was a feudal system similar to the ones in europe during the dark ages in europe (which i bet none of you would say is ideal) in which majority of the population were serfs or slaves. where simple punishments were often met with mutilation. at the top was the dalai lama and high ranking monks who controlled practically everything. when china came and turned tibet into a chinese province. they gave tibet all the rights that the rest of the chinese people had (whatever few that they had). this included a right to any class they choose through education and the right to have land for their own hands to grow crop. the dalai lama and high ranking aristocrats who once were gods in this land and had everything as they had pretty much lost their slaves and in 59 would trie to rebel. the rebellion failed and the dalai lama was forced to flee. but the rebel failed not just simply because china had a better army but because the common tibetan people did not support him. my point is that while some of the FN's actions agianst the air nomads might look similar to the china-tibet situation, keep in mind many of the facts against your claims are quite present, for example. the fire nation is invadeing and trying to kill off much of the EK's population and force it to surrender through fear and a sense of hopless despair. just like how Japan was trying to do that to china dureing the second sino-japanese war. while china has no real evidence of launching mass genocide on tibetans as first of all they are already in control, unlike japan who would never gain full control of china. and if you are going to try to argue about how china has violent crack downs on tibetan riots. know that those so-called inoccent tibetan rioters were also killing and beating up ethic han chinese and other non-tibetan ethnic groups around the area. how do you think America would respond if in hawaii for some reasons started haveing violent riots where native hawiians began killing and launching racially motivated violence against white americans? do you think america would just say "nah, its all good. they are just haveing fun thats all. no need for the police or the military!" and just so you know, most of the tibetan rioters were either descendants or were from the higher classes which included the high ranking monks who till china came in had the right to and did abuse their power. another point to take is how the war ends in both our world and the avatar world. just like japan, the fire nation although originally had the enitative had become tied down on the the sheer size of the countries that they were trying to conquer. and also by then end, the resisting nations also finally began improveing on their technology and weaponry to finally reach the point of supperiority over their attackers. And in the end both the will of the people of the Earth Kingdom and that of the Chinese people proved stronger than that of their invaders. so judgeing from all i have picked up and stated, i believe that the creators of avatar are actually taking a more sypathedic approach to china and realizing that modern china has been through a lot in these last 200 years. i think the attack on the water tribe is to be a mirror of japan's invasion of other smaller southasian countries. and maybe even the genocide and attack on the nomads a parrallel of the ainu or Okinawens. for those of you who read this, i thankyou for taking time to read my belifs. i hope i did not offend anyone. and for those who strongly disagree, please do not leave any hate comments and respon respectfully to where you believe i am off.