Talk:Fire Lord

It says that Azula is the next fire lord but after azula it would be zuko right? Daniel 01:15, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Since Zuko is a traitor, he no longer "qualifies" to be the next Fire Lord, much like when he was banished. Omnibender 02:08, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

How will azula be the fire lord if zuko is older then azula. and i think that you are right how will zuko be the next fire lord if he was banished?

--Lucylulu 03:20, 8 July 2008 (UTC)lucylulu

Never mind spoliers would be involved Daniel 04:02, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Should Azula even be mentioned? Since she was never given the crown, doesn't that mean she was never officially Fire Lord?

--8th Mizukage 06:35, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

YEes she was never fire lordDaniel 06:38, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

As the Fire Sage said, Phoenix King Ozai did 'decree that Azula was the new Fire Lord, she even stayed at the physical throne for a while, thing is, during her coronation, she was overthrown. She didn't become the Fire Lord officially, but she did exercise the position, and thus is mentioned. Omnibender 17:18, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't see why unofficially exercising a position gives her that position in the ummm history books Felinoel 18:14, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Very true. Yes its should be noted, but she should not be listed under Fire Lords nor should her, Zuko, or Ozai's pages say she succeeded or preceded anyone because she didn't. She never actually held the position, therefore listing her is lying. Even if she exercised the position unofficially, SHE WAS NEVER FIRE LORD. It is as simple as that.

--8th Mizukage 03:46, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Ok, no need to shout, your reasoning makes sense. Omnibender 15:30, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm not yelling, if I was I would have put ! at the end.

--8th Mizukage 07:13, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I just associate something written in caps as yelling. Omnibender 14:24, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I think everyone does? Its pretty common to associate that Felinoel 05:24, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I was just trying to make a point, not yell. I really think that this article, along with Zuko, Ozai, and Azula need to be protected. People don't seem to accept the fact that Azula should not be listed as Fire Lord because she never was one, and she never succeeded nor preceded one.

--8th Mizukage 20:08, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Well you mean she never officially was Felinoel 20:35, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Zuko
A picture of the current Fire Lord, Zuko to the right of the timeline would seem appropriate, does anyone have any good Fire Lord Zuko pics? Felinoel 04:57, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Does anyone not like this picture? Felinoel 05:43, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The only image of him as Fire Lord the Wikia has is the one with him and Aang just before the coronation, he doesn't have the five pronged thing, so I don't think it'd be good to use that image. Omnibender 15:14, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, well the one I had was a close up of his face with a stern look matching the other two, which is why I chose it... Felinoel 01:23, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Wrong title?
Even if Azula was crowned, she wouldn't be a Fire Lord, She'd be a Fire Lady, wouldn't she? Master Waterbender 09:16, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

See Talk:Azula. Omnibender - Talk 16:40, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Fire Lady is generally the lesser title given to the partner of the Fire Lord, Lords were the ones in power, Ladies were the ones who had some benefits of their marriage felinoel ~ (Talk) 20:23, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

fire lady is a lesser title given to the fire lords wife but we don't know what powers a fire lady has. User Talk:Azulalove

It's hard to imagine that the title of Fire Lord is gender neutral. Zukofan123 07:40, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Thats because all Crowned Fire Lords were male. But since Azula would have been crowned if not for the intervention of Zuko and Katara, therefore it is safe to assume gender-neutrality. - Zero - Talk 07:43, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Then let's see if the title of fire lady is gender neutral also. lol Zukofan123 07:49, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Dont be a fool. The title of the male spouse of a female Fire Lord is still unknown. - Zero - Talk 07:52, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

New Image
I just looked at screenshots of "The Avatar and the Fire Lord" and at least one features the hall of Fire Lords, which displays all of the known Fire Lords plus the unknown ones. Shall we add this to the page? I think it would be a good addition.Fire Eater 23:09, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

That sounds interesting. Upload the image so we can see it. We can't approve it if we can't see the image. It sounds like a good addition from what you have said. Please upload it. Mattkenn3 Talk 23:13, 15 November 2008 (UTC)



Not to jump the gun, but I really like this one. Puragus - Talk 23:29, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Cool! That's the one. Not to get carried away, but do you think it is possible to get a close-up shot of Azulon's image, which is to the right of Sozin? I ask because we already have the tapestries of Ozai and Sozin prominently featured. If this is not possible, please disregard.Fire Eater 23:33, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

That was funny. Puragus just beat me to it. I had an edit conflict trying to put up the same thing. Ha. I like the image. Mattkenn3 Talk 23:32, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't think it's possible to get a close-up, but there's another image not so long after this one that shows a better look at Azulon's portrait and Sozin's dad's portrait. (I'll let you guys upload it, if you want to. It does have a more detailed look at those two portraits). On a completely unrelated note: is that a compass rose that Sozin's dad is holding? Puragus - Talk 23:42, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it is. That is strange. I'm about to go eat my supper, happy editing. Mattkenn3 Talk 23:46, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Naming
I think I saw on Nick.com that the actual spelling of it is Firelord not Fire Lord. Although even if it's not correct, I can understand why if you guys would like to keep the current spelling; it would be a major pain to change the spelling when that word is on many many many many articles. Alex101313 - Talk 23:06, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Whether you say Firelord or Fire Lord its basically the same thing and besides it could be a simple spelling mistake. Also the major pain thing is also correct so I really think it should stay the way it is. Lol. - Zero - Talk 10:41, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Gender-Neutral
Why are there references to a made-up title "Fire Lady Regent", and why were references to the title of Fire Lord being gender-neutral removed? Azula was clearly shown becoming Fire Lord, making it at least somewhat gender neutral. The only time we saw the possibility of a female ruler of the Fire Nation, she was called the Fire Lord, and there were never any references to any other title. We can infer from this that the previous information was true. We need to remove the references to any made-up titles and state that the title of Fire Lord is clearly gender neutral. Puragus  Talk 06:35, 29 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I couldn't have said it better myself. I'll take a look at the page now. 888th Avatar - Talk - Contributions 08:33, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree that the title is gender-neutral but I thought that we had agreed that Azula was never crowned Fire Lord. Please do not make the same mistake again. You said she was Fire Lord in your last Post. Quoted from Puragus' Last Post: "Azula was clearly shown becoming Fire Lord." - Zero - Talk 07:12, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

You know what I meant, please don't jump over every little mistake. I'm very aware that Azula was never technically the Fire Lord. Puragus  Talk 07:44, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay okay. I only said it to avoid confusion amoungst readers. - Zero - Talk 07:48, 30 December 2008 (UTC)