Talk:Aang

(I'm not entirely sure about the format for a talk page, so if I'm in the wrong, please point it out).

Opening Sequence Screenshot
I'm not sure that it is Aang performing airbending in the opening sequence. The shadowed figure that appears in the opening "Water Earth Fire Air" narration could be any air monk really.

After freeze framing the opening, I can see that the bender is still thin like Aang, yet he seems taller and more mature, judging by the size of his head compared to his body. Also, the lower half of the outfit is slightly different, the pants part not being tucked into his boots. Of course he could be barefoot (though I haven't checked any shots of him barefoot to look at what his pants do).

Here's the screenshot: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/Bman41589/airbender.jpg

Also, the benders thus far seem to be foreshadowing later characters, such as Azula and Pakku, so I'm assuming that the earth and air benders will show up lit up later on.

I'm not saying that it isn't Aang, but I suggest that we shouldn't assume it right off.

i'm pretty sure its aang. and fire is azula and water is that avatar that was water, i can't remember his name. and i thing earth is haru, im not completey sure, but air is aang. i can tell.

vera.

To answer a question here.... the Earth Character in the opening was confirmed by the writers to be an early version of Toph, before they decided on her current parameters. The character of Sud, Roku's earthbending teacher, bears a moderate resemblance towards the shadowed earthbender in the beginning as well. Bryke may have done this to quell suspicions of who it really is, despite the first point above. H-Man Havoc 13:00, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

First of well, welcome to the Wikia vera, you can sign you comments at talk pages with ~. If you look carefully, it's not Aang, reasons for it are stated above. The only character you actually got right is Azula. Omnibender 14:42, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Personally I don't see how anyone can really tell that much about who the shadowed figures are cause they're entirely in shadow. All you really see is an outline of the character, no other details. Azula's a pretty good choice for the Fire one cause she's the only prominent female Firebender in the whole series and the silhouettes match. Pakku's the water guy, only Waterbender in the series who actually looks like the shadow figure. We know the whole story about the Earth one. The Air monk... To me it has to be Aang. There's no other Airbender alive in the whole series (except in flashbacks). The bare feet, well let's think about this: the Avatar bends Earth too. The figure looks right: lean, perhaps a little taller then Aang but it's hard to tell without a scale. Face looks close. Okay it's impossible to tell for certain, unless the creators tell us, but I can't think of anything off hand that would say why the figure can't be Aang. Daniel Dusk 07:20, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * First of all the head is shaped wrong, and second of all if you watch it in motion, if I remember correctly, facial hair can be seen felinoel ~ (Talk) 16:58, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't see any hint of facial hair, and the face looks right to me. The shape could be different to you because the person is all in shadow. Again why would it be anyone but Aang? It doesn't make sense. Aang is the sole Airbender alive, that we know of.Daniel Dusk 14:30, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Day of Black Sun
Why hasn't every article been updated. In the UK, the day of Black Sun aired, so the articles should have information about the invasion on the`m.

Actually, only part 1 has aired and only in the Netherlands, nowhere else in the world. I'll be removing any spoilers I find. 68.175.106.168 02:20, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Relationships Section
Wikipedia is deleting the relationships section and it is actually very important in the show. If nobody replies by tomorrow, I will add the section. 68.175.106.168 02:23, 27 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Its been tomorrow and the day after and still no section. I'll do it for you.--TheUltimate3 02:04, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Relationship
Under the relationship section with Katara it is said that they kissed in the episodes cave of two lovers. Though this is extremely likely it is not necessarily true. There should really only be facts we are certain are true here.

Umm. . .Aang and Katara kissed for the first time in the Cave of Lovers.

Did They?
The light went out just before we could see. Also she seemed very surprised in the last episode, which could have been becauseit was her first kiss. Greekpimp 01:31, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

However, in the Cave of Two Lovers, it is proven that Aang and Katara did not share a kiss. When the moment came and the lights dimmed as the two got closer, whatever happened in the time spam can be left to the imagination. However, when the glowing crystals came to light, Katara responded that it was the fact that the light burning out that unveiled the lighted passage-way. This proves that a kiss was not shared. Katara to come to the conclusion that in order for the lighted passage-way to light the way out, the fire must be burned out, not that a kiss must be shared.


 * It's not proven one way or the other. They're leaning in as the torches go out, we cut away and come back when the crystals are glowing. We don't see if they kissed, cause we weren't there when the crystals start to glow, or if they didn't. It's an irritating thing really. You can sorta make a case for either but since we don't see them at the actual moment the crystals light up we can't soay for sure that they did or didn't. That's the way it is. Daniel Dusk 07:33, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Western Air Temple
It aired quite a while ago, why is there no information about it on this page? Liberi Fatali37 08:20, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Profession
Does being the Avatar counts as profession? For me it denotes what one does for living. Omnibender 20:07, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

I think it does. It's no less a profession even if he isn't paid for it

Comics
Are the Avatar Comics from Nicks site considered canon? If they are, we should add the information on "sleepbending" on the article. Omnibender 21:48, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I think that the comics are cannon as they come from Nick, and fit perfectly into the story, and I also believe I heard it somewheres; but whatever, I think we should make a page per comic like we have for each episode, as a way to recap and such on each comic. Joeyaa 14:18, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Avatar sucsessor
When Aang Dies His sucessor will be born to the Water Tribe BUT it has to be the Northern Water Tribe. It's procces of elimination (think about it)


 * There are no men in the Southern Water Tribe


 * and The are no known women in the Foggy Swamp Tribe

If there are any mistake (I know there are a few but I still wanna post this) please get connected with User:Thallett -Thallett

There are men in the SWT because Pakku and the others went their after season 1. Scott 06:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

You dont know if the successor will be a male. It could be a female. The Unnamed Fire Avatar was male too remember. Zero 07:22, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

About the gender I just unthinkingly right him About the pakku thing "oh yeah"

Now that i think about it it's a pattern

Fire Avatar-Male

Yangchen-Female

Kuruk-Male

Kyoshi-Female

Roku-Male

Aang-DDDDAAAAAHHHHH so close o wll'Thallett 01:30, 19 July 2008 (UTC)Thallett

I dont think there is a pattern except what the world needs at the time. Zero 05:25, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

The only part of the cycle that really seems set is simply the way it cycles through the elements. There doesn't seem to be any pattern in terms of what sex the Avatar is. Daniel Dusk 02:20, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

There are women in the Foggy Swamp Tribe. I definitely saw one in DoBS when one of the submarines gets hit by a harpoon, and a Foggy Swamp girl freezes the water pouring in. I could tell it was a woman because her chest was covered. Not to mention the Foggy Swamp has never been stated to be suffering in any way, the Fire Nation has zero presence there, so why would there be no women? There just haven't been any notable women. Munkiman 02:29, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Wow, I never noticed that. Omnibender 02:52, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

First Avatar to Energybend or Not?
Is it just me or did you guys also notice the similarity between the beam of light released by Aang close to the end of Spiritbending Ozai's energy, and the beam of light released upon the breaking of the Iceberg in which Aang was trapped in the beginning of the show. Is it possible that what we may be wrong when we say that Aang is the first Avatar to ever energybend? Zero 06:27, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Not only possible, but also very likely.

Nick.com confirmed he wasn't the first, but that he was one of very few. Omnibender 19:38, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

I think they went for the effect being similar to create a nice symmetry to it all. I'd say the first time is cause he froze himself while he was still in the state, so a lot of excess energy built up and was finally released when Katara broke it open. Daniel Dusk 07:22, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Could it be possible that when Aang was sealed in the Iceberg one of the Previous Avatars used energybending to keep him alive. I mean the Lion turtle is a spiritbender and he has lived for thousands of years. Zero 05:33, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't find that likely, nick.com stated that very few Avatars ever learned Energybending, and even fewer used it. I know Aang was in the Avatar State that whole time, but I doubt the few Avatars who know energybending did anything, if they could, they would have used regular bending to get Aang to safety in some island. Omnibender 21:49, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Height
Is that at the beginning or at the end of the show? Because it is quite obvious he grows taller during it: After watching the first episode again, I can see that he's significantly shorter than in the last one. So are Katara and Sokka, but Aang's grown a lot more.

Infobox Image
I think you should take the picture of him in his Realized avatar attire at the end of the article and place it in the infobox. (It's the most recent photo of him) And just leave his and Katara's third kiss at the end. Also, just saying, you dont need to havee pictures for every paragraph. NaruHina Talk  23:22, 12 August 2008 (UTC)(If you respond, put a message on my talk page so I'll know. I'm never on this Wiki much, though I'm a fan of the series)

Your objections have been noted. But we like doing things this way. Thank You. Zero - Talk 16:56, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Redirection Question
Kung fu action jesus redirects to Avatar, yet Kung Fu Action Jesus is not a character even in the Abridged just an allias, so I think that redirection should be removed as the allias is not only offensive, but really doesent have too much relevence with aang or the series.Joeyaa 14:16, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

I agree with both suggestions. Omnibender 17:37, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I think it should just redirect to the Abridged Series felinoel ~ (Talk) 18:38, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I just did it. Omnibender 20:10, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Main Image from Aang
I was hoping if someone could please find a better image of Aang. He just seems so upset in the image that is being displayed which seems like a contradiction to his character which is supposed to be happy. Stefers08 02:00, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yea someone went around changing all the main characters' pictures to ones from the third season felinoel ~ (Talk) 02:03, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Does anyone know what episode the main image on the article right now is from? Energybender 02:14, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Puragus did, and quite frankly, I think we should change character images to how they were by the third season, they've changed, if we couldn't change it, Zuko and Iroh's articles would never be able to use the current images, maybe it was wrong of Puragus not to say what he was going to do or put the idea forward, but at least he changed to good images. And I have no idea of what that episode is, but I would say it's from season two. Omnibender - Talk 15:31, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Actually, it was from "The Southern Raiders". And you're right, I should have put the idea out there first. Puragus - Talk 16:40, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Quote
Are we going to start using lots of quotes? If so, we need to discuss what to quote, when and how much. Omnibender - Talk 00:24, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I just figured to put the quote box and the quote at the very top of the page. A quote that fits the character and their personality. --SuperFlash101 14:01, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

I do not think this quote fits Aang's personality at all. Only for a short time(one episode). Something more Air Nomadish is needed. Wise yet fun. - Zero - Talk 23:52, 1 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I see. I'll change it. --SuperFlash101 17:37, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Also, do you think we should have a quote for all the main avatar characters (Katara, Sokka, Toph, Zuko) because they are important as well? Alex101313 19:02, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Too Long
Sorry if I sound like a Wikipedia administrator but this article may be too long...I doubt many would like to read through the whole article.The 888th Avatar 07:12, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

You'd be surprised how many people are unlike you. And you do sound like a wikipedia admin. This is precisely why I came here. To get away from them. Whats your problem. Let it be. - Zero - Talk 23:45, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

And plus it gives quick reference at what was happening with Aang through the entire series. Alex101313 23:48, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. And Just because wikipedia does'nt have the guts to write long articles doesn't mean we cant. Please refrain from making such further comments in the future. Also if noone wants to read thses so called too long articles then why are we on he wikia spotlight. That proves your comment wrong. - Zero - Talk 23:48, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Well put Zero. Alex101313 00:00, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Alex. - Zero - Talk 00:01, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The length is because the article is unfocused. It retells the episodes that relate to Aang instead of just linking to them. Bacaue of this, the wiki now has no real page-sized overview over Aangs biography, although it needs one. An overview would summarize the episodes that are retold here and link to the episodes themselves for readers who need more detail. --◄mendel► 10:39, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Look we've been over this. We Are Not Going To Shorten The Articles. Why cant people get it into their heads that this is NOT wikipedia. If you want short Articles then feel free to go there. I for one am sick and tired of this. I and many others came to Avatar Wikia because of wikipedians who chose to delete info from the site just because they felt they should. We came here and worked and worked to make this wikia what it is. There is no way I'm gonna just sit here and let history repeat itself. People worked hard on these articles. And you want to destroy all of their work? I dont care if you think I'm overreacting or whatever. I wont stand for this. We've been over this. We are not like wikipedia and we dont care how the other wikia run things, we are the Avatar Wikia and we make our own path. I'm sorry for being like this but I really hate it when peoples hard work is ruined and while I'm here as a user or as an admin I will protest against anything that is remotely like what you are suggesting. The Episode Data for each character focuses on that characters story only. So the info is not unfocused. Good Day. - Zero - Talk 17:36, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

I think he got his point across. I don't even need to comment. This discussion is over. Alex101313 - Talk 21:36, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

You might wanna pick your words better next time Zero, this comment makes you come across as someone who's a bit power hungry and short tempered. Omnibender - Talk 21:42, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Profile
Someone changed the profile pic here. Should we change it back? Other people might not like it because he's not turned toward us. However, I like it much better than the other one, because it's from book 3, with his new Avatar-clothes, and it's high quality. Puragus  Talk 19:40, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Update: Okay, someone changed it back, but could we still talk about this? I really think we should be looking for book 3 profiles. Puragus  Talk 19:43, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Some other suggestions:

We don't have to change anything, but I think we should at least discuss it. What does everyone think?

As long as the image isn't in the article already, any of these can go, though I like 2 and 4 better than 1 and 3. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:49, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I think 3 looks pretty good. Good lighting, from book 3, and you can see his face perfectly. AlexTalk 21:48, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

1 is not good since it is not complete. The others are good, chose any one of them if you must. - Zero - Talk 10:57, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Three does have a good lighting, but I'm not very fond of the angle of the image. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 12:17, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

I like 2 and 3 the best, especially 3. I realize his head is turned a little bit away, but I like the expression on his face. It's sort of like he's looking out at the world, now that it's at peace, and he feels content and peaceful and he's just taking in the beauty of the day. I see that picture and I think, "it's not the little kid Aang I'm looking at here, this is Avatar Aang, whose come out the other side of the war and he's just happy that everyone's at peace." (maybe that sounds weird, but that's the feeling I get off it.) Puragus   Talk 21:21, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

I like the last three, especially 2 & 4. I understand 3 has very good lighting, and I like it, but I just think 2 & 4 look better. I also like the idea that we are using his current likeness as his new image. --SuperFlash101 00:26, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I think we should bring it to a vote:

Vote:

Picture 1

Picture 2

Picture 3 Picture 4
 * 1) AlexTalk 00:47, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) --SuperFlash101 01:55, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Puragus   Talk 03:14, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Comments:


 * I do like the lighting in this picture. AlexTalk 00:47, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Since I'm split between 2, 3 and 4, I'm not gonna vote on this one. - Zero - Talk 06:46, 7 December 2008 (UTC)